Chiefs Chiefs' Player Jevon Belcher involved in murder-suicide, shoots self at Arrowhead - Page 95

MoreLemonPledge · 10:32 AM

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility

**Bwana** · 12-01-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hulamau

Many Condolences to all Chiefs fans here at the Planet, from many of us Bronco fans over at the Orangemane .. we may be 'friendly' rivals on the field, but share the real sense of sorrow and disbelief at such a senseless tragedy...a feeling we know too all too well with Darrent Williams and Kenny McKinley's too early departures from this life.

Really feel for the families and for Romeo and Pioli ... Romeo has always seemed like a good guy and is well liked in every locker room so far as I can tell and it must be a very difficult night for them both after what they witnessed and were powerless to stop..

Best wishes for a Chiefs recovery in the coming weeks and months,

Hulamau

Classy post

**The Bad Guy** · 12-01-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Remove the dildo from your ass so some air can reach your brain. Yes he killed her. Why? We aren't entirely sure yet.

So there are acceptable reasons to kill her?

You are ****ing deplorable. Are you related to Denise?

**Rain Man** · 12-01-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I guess I can see him going to ArrowHead with all those guys to corroborate a story for when he would turn himself in to have a shot at having a lesser sentence or getting off totally...but I'd like to think that wasn't the case.

I think luv's theory is correct. He was panicking and went to the people who were most likely to be able to help and protect him. When the police showed up, he lost it.

Iconic · 12-01-2012, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

It doesn't matter why?

He shot her multiple times.

This is not self-defense.

Hey look!
Detective Dave on the case, reporting for duty ChiefsPlanet!

**The Bad Guy** · 12-01-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Hey look!
Detective Dave on the case, reporting for duty ChiefsPlanet!

And I'm sure his mother present is going to be keeping quiet if it was really self defense.

You can continue to bury your head in the sand and act like the piece of shit you are.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-01-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

We'll never know why.

He shot himself. He's dead.

WE MUST KNOW THESE ANSWERS!!!!!

DJ's left nut · 12-01-2012, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian

What history of violence against women are you ****ing talking about?

I knew Jovan. I knew nothing of this. The punching incident? Seems like that was a history of violence against glass! Not women. Anyone that hasn't punched something because a woman pissed them off probably hasn't dated many women.

I won't speculate as to why this happened with shit like "head trauma" or other such factors. Sometimes arguments, yes regular arguments, escalate into crimes of passion and people die. Happens everyday. I'm not defending Jovie in any way, just saying that Occam's razor probably applies here pretty well. They got into a heated argument and it escalated. People trying to sensationalize this need to find something better to do with their day.

Y'know, that's a really fair point.

When I was 18, I got in a argument with my girlfriend. I hung up, walked past my folks, went upstairs, walked calmly into my room and put my fist through the drywall. Really stupid, could've broken my hand had a stud been there. I was young, I was an idiot...but so was Belcher when the college incident happened.

But shit man, I've only ever hit another human being once in my life. I've never so much as contemplated getting physical with a woman (in fact, married the same girl and we've been married for 7 years).

I hadn't thought about it, but you're right. It's really unfair to try to hang that incident around his neck now. Some people have a temper - but it doesn't mean they're violent. Apart from this incident, we just don't see any indication that Belcher has shown a 'violent' streak. Just the same idiot young kid temper that a lot of us had in our youth.

splatbass · 12-01-2012, 05:09 PM

I think everyone needs to calm the **** down and stop arguing. On both sides of this argument. People died. This is a tragedy, stop with all your selfishness.

**BossChief** · 12-01-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I think luv's theory is correct. He was panicking and went to the people who were most likely to be able to help and protect him. When the police showed up, he lost it.

He totally lost it and had not just shot her once, but "multiple times". He knew the "end was near" and was deciding how it ends.

After seeing what was behind doors 1 and 2, he chose door number 3.

feldspar · 12-01-2012, 05:10 PM

Of course you play the game.

You consider if Crennel is up to it right away, but you don't even know how he feels about the game being played. Could be that he wants to stay busy, ever consider that? I'm sure he has the option of sitting this one out if he wants, or so I would assume. Torrey Smith played for the Ravens the very day his 19-year-old brother was killed in a motorcycle accident this year...and his bother didn't kill somebody in front of his own mother before he died.

You think all the players really want to give up their game-day paychecks? Those are pretty sizable. We are talking about an incredibly selfish series of actions by Belcher. He's a murderer, then he's got to go to the team's facility to shoot himself in front of the coach and GM?

As far as I'm concerned, the tragedy is the murder. I feel sorry for the child left behind, the murdered woman, the families involved, and, to a lesser degree, Pioli and Crennel for having to witness a suicide. I have a friend that witnessed his buddy shoot himself in the head...it was just the two of them, until it wasn't, if you catch my drift. That was not the end of his world.

DJ's left nut · 12-01-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

Drunk mans stumbles into your house on accident assuming it was his. You shoot him on an impulse.

I'm sure there's some 'read between the lines' bullshit situation that will fit your definition.

My point remains. Murder is not black and white.

My point remains - murder has a definition and you're not using it.

At best, what you're describing is going to get you dinged with an involuntary manslaughter charge due to the lack of the necessary mens rea.

Murder is black and white.

Please stop being an idiot.

O.city · 12-01-2012, 05:12 PM

Don't think he was going after a player, players weren't there yet I don't think

AussieChiefsFan · 12-01-2012, 05:12 PM

Just Horrible. RIP 59 and his wife

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-01-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

"Cold-blooded killer," to me, carries connotations of the action being calculated, and I highly doubt this was the case.

I don't think there's been enough evidence released to rule out pre-meditated murder.

I'm not stating that it was pre-meditated but it wouldn't be a shock to find out that was the case.

houstonwhodat · 12-01-2012, 05:13 PM

I'm sorry for you guys.

After the season the Chiefs are having this is the last thing ya'll need to deal with.

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MoreLemonPledge M-I-Z S-E-C Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10004927	Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide No details yet. Just came across on the news. edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm. An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning. Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25. "We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation." There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said. The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday. The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/86...-team-facility Last edited by MoreLemonPledge; 12-01-2012 at 10:32 AM..
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12-01-2012, 05:09 PM	#1418
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feldspar Starter Join Date: Sep 2011 Casino cash: $10005060	Of course you play the game. You consider if Crennel is up to it right away, but you don't even know how he feels about the game being played. Could be that he wants to stay busy, ever consider that? I'm sure he has the option of sitting this one out if he wants, or so I would assume. Torrey Smith played for the Ravens the very day his 19-year-old brother was killed in a motorcycle accident this year...and his bother didn't kill somebody in front of his own mother before he died. You think all the players really want to give up their game-day paychecks? Those are pretty sizable. We are talking about an incredibly selfish series of actions by Belcher. He's a murderer, then he's got to go to the team's facility to shoot himself in front of the coach and GM? As far as I'm concerned, the tragedy is the murder. I feel sorry for the child left behind, the murdered woman, the families involved, and, to a lesser degree, Pioli and Crennel for having to witness a suicide. I have a friend that witnessed his buddy shoot himself in the head...it was just the two of them, until it wasn't, if you catch my drift. That was not the end of his world.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2824064	Don't think he was going after a player, players weren't there yet I don't think
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