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Old 12-19-2012, 11:16 AM  
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Why the Chiefs need Cowher...
No Super Bowl winning coach has ever won the Super Bowl again with a different team. We know this.

We also know the NFL is fixed.

There wouldn't be a bigger story line in the NFL next year than if the Chiefs, who haven't drafted a QB since Todd Blackledge, were to win the Super Bowl, making Cowher, who has been in the broadcast booth, the first coach to win it all with 2 different teams.

Make it happen, Roger!
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:53 PM   #166
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:55 PM   #167
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I would be completely on board with going with Chip Kelly or Brian Kelly.

But i also understand that part of this decision is going to be based on "restoring" the fans after what they've gone thru the past 8 years.


Right or wrong, I think that will play a part in it.

And by hiring Cowher and drafting Geno first overall, that sells your season tickets, just like that.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:55 PM   #168
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Obvious burn out? Thought he stepped down due to the fact that his wife had cancer?
I am just going from memory here from the timing. I thought it was pretty obvious to everyone that he was spent and burned out, just watching and listening to him. He was very high profile at the time.

He quit after a mediocre season following the SB win, not right after a SB victory.

His wife did die 4 years later, but I don't recall cancer even being mentioned at the time. He just mentioned spending more time with his family, but that is a pretty common reason.

I could be all wrong, but that is the way I saw it at the time.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:01 PM   #169
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Here, however, Cowher, about midseason, stated that Cassel was a good QB, and that he wasn't a problem.
I'm aware of Cowher's statement. IMO, there's no way he continues to believe that if he comes in as GM [edit: I meant "coach"] with the #1 pick in hand and I doubt that he really believed it at the time.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:01 PM   #170
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Well, they are about to take a risk. Because we are drafting a Qb number 1 overall this year.

So then by your thought, our next HC will be "lucky" to win a SB because there isnt' a franchise QB sure thing in this draft?
Do you see one?

If it really is Geno, do you think the Chiefs are as convinced as you, to spend their only #1 pick overall ever on him, after not taking a 1st round QB in 30 years?

If Geno had half the buzz going for him that Eric Berry did a couple years ago, I would feel more confident, and maybe he will by draft time hopefully.

I hope so, but I am not so sure. Could he bust? Hell yes he can.

Heck, Joe Montana wasn't even a sure thing, if I recall correctly, he went in the third round.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:04 PM   #171
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Do you see one?

If it really is Geno, do you think the Chiefs are as convinced as you, to spend their only #1 pick overall ever on him, after not taking a 1st round QB in 30 years?

If Geno had half the buzz going for him that Eric Berry did a couple years ago, I would feel more confident, and maybe he will by draft time hopefully.

I hope so, but I am not so sure. Could he bust? Hell yes he can.

Heck, Joe Montana wasn't even a sure thing, if I recall correctly, he went in the third round.
It's not even to evaluation time yet, give it time.

The Chiefs are absolutely taking a QB if they have the first overall pick this year.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:08 PM   #172
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If Geno had half the buzz going for him that Eric Berry did a couple years ago, I would feel more confident, and maybe he will by draft time hopefully.
Ironic.

The only times I can remember this board being SO galvanized about a single draft prospect were Eric Berry and Derrick Johnson.

Look how those turned out...
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Parker, if you knew we would be pairing him with Geno, would you be more onboard for Cowher?
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:13 PM   #174
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Parker, if you knew we would be pairing him with Geno, would you be more onboard for Cowher?
As much as I don't want Cowher, if it was mandated he take Geno I'd support it. Not that that means shit but I think Cowher + Geno is definitely better than Cowher + Rapist.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:18 PM   #175
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Ironic.

The only times I can remember this board being SO galvanized about a single draft prospect were Eric Berry and Derrick Johnson.

Look how those turned out...
Exactly. It took Derrick quite a while, but it did happen.
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Ironic.

The only times I can remember this board being SO galvanized about a single draft prospect were Eric Berry and Derrick Johnson.

Look how those turned out...
Well DJ is a pro bowler and Berry is finally catching up to his pro bowl rookie season. Looks good for Geno
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As much as I don't want Cowher, if it was mandated he take Geno I'd support it. Not that that means shit but I think Cowher + Geno is definitely better than Cowher + Rapist.
Why no to Cowher?
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Why no to Cowher?
Because if the rumors are true, he wants to be in control of Personnel. I'm not really too fond of that; I feel that having a competent GM, Director of College scouting, and Director of player personnel that includes the Head and Assistant coaches within the draft/scouting process is a much better formula, as it provides more ideas and discussion. Granted 1 person has to make the decision but when you get a room of people that are a) close minded or B) too scared to make their opinion heard, then you're setting your franchise back IMO.
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Because if the rumors are true, he wants to be in control of Personnel. I'm not really too fond of that; I feel that having a competent GM, Director of College scouting, and Director of player personnel that includes the Head and Assistant coaches within the draft/scouting process is a much better formula, as it provides more ideas and discussion. Granted 1 person has to make the decision but when you get a room of people that are a) close minded or B) too scared to make their opinion heard, then you're setting your franchise back IMO.
Yeah, see I want that as well.


If Cowher wants some input, fine, but should be known that he wont' be making the decision.
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