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Old 09-20-2013, 04:01 PM  
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PFF, week 3

My god, there's just tons of interesting stuff to talk about this week.

1. Eric Fisher is an absolute dumpster fire. One more sack allowed, two penalties, and a QB hit, and two other hurries. He's bad right now. His whole season has been bad. Two sacks allowed, 7 QB hurries, 3 penalties, and his run blocking isn't good, either. He's the 66th rated OT (out of 68 guys).

2. We ran 84 plays last night. After all the talk about the Eagles running 300 plays a game, we had 14 more. lulz

3. Like I said last night, Justin Houston earned an 8.3 for that game. That's the highest grade I've ever seen anyone on PFF ever get for one game. He's currently the #1 OLB in football, and leads them all in stops, sacks and batted passes.

4. Interestingly enough, Tamba Hali had 8 QB pressures last night. He had a fine game, and actually leads all OLBs in pressures this year. Rumors of his demise are greatly exaggerated.

5. Poe didn't pick up a sack, but got 3 QB hurries of his own. If this guy is picking up 2 sacks or 3 hurries every game, wow. He's sitting comfortably at #10.

6. Tyson Jackson is your unsung hero for the week with a 5.6. That's beasting. 4.0 of it was in pass rush, and he had 3 QB pressures. Who was blocking Tyson Jackson last night? He sucks. Both Jackson and DeVito are ranked in the top 5 among 3-4 DEs.

7. Posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating: Eric Berry is the #1 safety against the pass, and #2 in stops. He's been targeted 11 times and allowed only 35 yards. He's playing well.

8. Sadly, PFF doesn't like Alex Smith's checkdowns. He's currently their 32nd rated QB.

9. Anthony Sherman is the #1 FB in pro football. That trade looks pretty good.
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Old 09-21-2013, 02:30 AM   #151
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Yeah, that's a legal block, but Goodell wants to make sure that running backs can't put their head down. And defensive backs cannot lead with their head, even if they use proper technique and can see what they are hitting, or target a "defenseless" receiver, but when they hit a receiver in the chest using their shoulder and hit them hard enough to separate them from the ball there is still a pretty good chance they get flagged or fined.
There are just some ass backwards calls. I know I about lost my mind in the Tampa New Orleans game when they called a personal foul on just a hellacious clean hit on Jimmy Graham.

They are ruining the league.
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Old 09-21-2013, 04:32 AM   #152
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Apparently, that's not illegal. That very same block was deemed legal in the SF SEATTLE GAME.

You are allowed to essentially chop block a guy in the trenches. It ended up with Ian Williams on the IR with a broken ankle.....

How stupid is that?
That's the definition of an illegal chop block. Defender already engaged with another blocker and hit below the waist by a second blocker. I'm sorry that Williams was injured and the refs missed the call, but don't be stupid.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:06 AM   #153
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:11 AM   #154
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Its saying Poe is the #10 DT or am I misunderstanding? If so BS.
Seems wrong.
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:07 AM   #155
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Fisher just getting his ass whipped like this 4-5 times a game.

Great job by Hudson. Asamoah came in with what looks like an illegal chop block though.
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:10 AM   #156
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8. Sadly, PFF doesn't like Alex Smith's checkdowns. He's currently their 32nd rated QB.
That's ****ing dumb as $3it squared...
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:11 AM   #157
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Great job by Hudson. Asamoah came in with what looks like an illegal chop block though.
He plays too high, he doesn't drop-n-push, and he doesn't use his natural leg strength worth a $3it because of bad leverage.

This will have to be coached out of him...
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Great job by Hudson.
Dude is a pimp.

By the end of the year most will be hanging from his balls...
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:19 AM   #159
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It's almost annoying how good we are when we line up in the I-form.

There appears to be legitimate chemistry between Charles and Sherman but for about 3 quarters every game, Andy doesn't let the two guys get to work.

But in these 4th quarters where Charles is turning it up even though the D knows the run is coming, he's doing it behind Sherman with fair frequency. The guy looks like a heck of a ballplayer.
The other thing to note is that they seem to run up the middle through the first 3 quarters, but when they decide to run the ball to eat up clock, they run left, behind Albert.
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:22 AM   #160
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Dude is a pimp.

By the end of the year most will be hanging from his balls...
Hudson is inconsistent right mow, but I believe he'll be tearing shit up by the end of the season.
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That's the definition of an illegal chop block. Defender already engaged with another blocker and hit below the waist by a second blocker.
Yep. That's my understanding of the rules anyway. Perhaps they've changed..
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The other thing to note is that they seem to run up the middle through the first 3 quarters, but when they decide to run the ball to eat up clock, they run left, behind Albert.
So true. Drives me crazy during the games and the facts underscore what you're saying.

During the last two games Jamaal Charles has the following in the first three quarters of both games (six quarters total):

31 Carries 97 yards 1 TD 3.13 ypc

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He plays too high, he doesn't drop-n-push, and he doesn't use his natural leg strength worth a $3it because of bad leverage.

This will have to be coached out of him...
Well and a lot of it is he's not used to playing on the right side.

He's used to planting a certain way, his muscles are used to being used a certain way, so naturally he's going to be much stronger playing as a LT.

It's just like dribbling a basketball. If you're right handed, dribbling with your left hand won't be as fluid, it won't feel natural, and you're not going to be as good as a ball handler coming down the lane.

Same concept with blocking. You need to plant your feet/legs for stability and leverage and you're naturally going to lean on your stronger plant foot for better leverage. Right now Fisher isn't playing like that. You can tell when he's just getting blasted from the snap falling down on his ass. He's not balanced and he's playing with no leverage at all compared to his opponent.

If it were up to me. I'd say **** whatever Albert has to say and I'd move him to RT and place Fisher at LT just to see if there's any improvement in the Oline as a whole, or if Albert is able to handle going to the RT spot better than Fisher is able to. I know people on this board hate that idea...but this Oline isn't going to do much for this offense unless Fisher players better. Our interior Oline is already shaky as it is. Albert is really our only strong point on our Oline. They're not terrible....but they're still very young and need much improvement IMO.
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Eric Fisher struggling out of gate for Kansas City Chiefs

By Gregg Rosenthal
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Published: Sept. 20, 2013 at 10:25 a.m. Updated: Sept. 21, 2013 at 09:05 a.m.

The No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft has struggled badly in plain sight. And no one has taken notice.

There are a lot of terrific, surprising stories surrounding the 3-0 start by the Kansas City Chiefs. Eric Fisher's play has provided one early reason for concern.

Fisher, playing right tackle, was called for holding twice during the Chiefs' 26-16 win over the Philadelphia Eagles on "Thursday Night Football." He appeared to give up at least two sacks. Pro Football Focus had him down for five total pressures, including a few plays where Eagles defensive lineman Fletcher Cox almost instantly beat him off the line of scrimmage. We noticed the Chiefs sliding their protection toward Fisher's side to help.

Mitigating factors help explain Fisher's struggles. He's playing a new position, after lining up at left tackle in college. Central Michigan to the NFL has been a big step. And, well, he's a rookie.

The Chiefs still have to be concerned. Fisher's struggles date to training camp and the preseason, when he uniformly received shaky reviews from onlookers in practice and games. PFF's ratings system is hardly perfect, but it can be an effective tool to evaluate play. Fisher ranked 144 out of 157 offensive tackles in PFF's preseason rankings, and he's 66th out of 68 in the regular season.

It's not just that Fisher has experienced some rookie struggles. He's struggled to compete at the pro level. If he was taken later in the draft, he would have been benched by now.

High picks at offensive lineman are supposed to be safer than other positions, but Fisher and the No. 2 overall pick, Jacksonville Jaguars tackle Luke Joeckel, have gotten off to rough starts. (Joeckel's struggles have been less dramatic.) The two picks faced off in Week 1, and no one seemed to notice.

It's a story that hasn't gotten a lot of traction in Kansas City, where the focus has been on the position. A simple Google news search reveals Fisher barely has been written about since the season started.

That's a rare luxury for a No. 1 overall pick to have. His position, team and the Chiefs' success has shielded him from the spotlight. Perhaps he'll take advantage and improve slowly as the season wears on. Perhaps the Chiefs will bench him.

If not, the Chiefs' biggest offseason addition might turn into a serious liability for a team with playoff aspirations.
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So there are 32 QBs better than Alex who is 3-0 with no INTs and lead our team in rushing last week?

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