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Old 07-16-2018, 03:59 PM  
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Putin Claims U.S. Intelligence Agents Funneled $400 Million To Clinton Campaign

Vladimir Putin made a claim during Monday's joint press conference with President Trump in Helsinki, Finland, when the Russian President said some $400 million in illegally earned profits was funneled to the Clinton campaign by associates of American-born British financier Bill Browder - at one time the largest foreign portfolio investors in Russia. The scheme involved members of the U.S. intelligence community, said Putin, who he said "accompanied and guided these transactions."

Browder made billions in Russia during the 90's. In December, a Moscow court sentenced Browder in absentia to nine years in prison for tax fraud, while he was also found guilty of tax evasion in a separate 2013 case. Putin accused Browder's associates of illegally earning over than $1.5 billion without paying Russian taxes, before sending $400 million to Clinton.

After offering to allow special counsel Robert Mueller's team to come to Russia for their investigation - as long as there was a reciprocal arrangement for Russian intelligence to investigate in the U.S., Putin said this:

For instance, we can bring up Mr. Browder, in this particular case. Business associates of Mr. Browder have earned over $1.5 billion in Russia and never paid any taxes neither in Russia or the United States and yet the money escaped the country. They were transferred to the United States. They sent [a] huge amount of money, $400,000,000, as a contribution to the campaign of Hillary Clinton. Well that’s their personal case.

It might have been legal, the contribution itself but the way the money was earned was illegal. So we have solid reason to believe that some [US] intelligence officers accompanied and guided these transactions. So we have an interest in questioning them.

From a report we noted in February by Philip Giraldi of The Strategic Culture Foundation:

Israel Shamir, a keen observer of the American-Russian relationship, and celebrated American journalist Robert Parry both think that one man deserves much of the credit for the new Cold War and that man is William Browder, a hedge fund operator who made his fortune in the corrupt 1990s world of Russian commodities trading.

Browder is also symptomatic of why the United States government is so poorly informed about international developments as he is the source of much of the Congressional “expert testimony” contributing to the current impasse. He has somehow emerged as a trusted source in spite of the fact that he has self-interest in cultivating a certain outcome. Also ignored is his renunciation of American citizenship in 1998, reportedly to avoid taxes. He is now a British citizen.

Browder is notoriously the man behind the 2012 Magnitsky Act, which exploited Congressional willingness to demonize Russia and has done so much to poison relations between Washington and Moscow. The Act sanctioned individual Russian officials, which Moscow has rightly seen as unwarranted interference in the operation of its judicial system.

Browder, a media favorite who self-promotes as “Putin’s enemy #1,” portrays himself as a selfless human rights advocate, but is he? He has used his fortune to threaten lawsuits for anyone who challenges his version of events, effectively silencing many critics. He claims that his accountant Sergei Magnitsky was a crusading "lawyer" who discovered a $230 million tax-fraud scheme that involved the Browder business interest Hermitage Capital but was, in fact, engineered by corrupt Russian police officers who arrested Magnitsky and enabled his death in a Russian jail.

Many have been skeptical of the Browder narrative, suspecting that the fraud was in fact concocted by Browder and his accountant Magnitsky. A Russian court recently supported that alternative narrative, ruling in late December that Browder had deliberately bankrupted his company and engaged in tax evasion. He was sentenced to nine years prison in absentia.

William Browder is again in the news recently in connection with testimony related to Russiagate. On December 16th Senator Diane Feinstein of the Senate Judiciary Committee released the transcript of the testimony provided by Glenn Simpson, founder of Fusion GPS. According to James Carden, Browder was mentioned 50 times, but the repeated citations apparently did not merit inclusion in media coverage of the story by the New York Times, Washington Post and Politico.

Fusion GPS, which was involved in the research producing the Steele Dossier used to discredit Donald Trump, was also retained to provide investigative services relating to a lawsuit in New York City involving a Russian company called Prevezon. As information provided by Browder was the basis of the lawsuit, his company and business practices while in Russia became part of the investigation. Simmons maintained that Browder proved to be somewhat evasive and his accounts of his activities were inconsistent. He claimed never to visit the United States and not own property or do business there, all of which were untrue, to include his ownership through a shell company of a $10 million house in Aspen Colorado. He repeatedly ran away, literally, from attempts to subpoena him so he would have to testify under oath.

Per Simmons, in Russia, Browder used shell companies locally and also worldwide to avoid taxes and conceal ownership, suggesting that he was likely one of many corrupt businessmen operating in what was a wild west business environment.

My question is, “Why was such a man granted credibility and allowed a free run to poison the vitally important US-Russia relationship?” The answer might be follow the money. Israel Shamir reports that Browder was a major contributor to Senator Ben Cardin of Maryland, who was the major force behind the Magnitsky Act.

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Old 07-17-2018, 06:59 AM   #31
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If it’s in wiki, it must be true!
Well, the 400 million accusation is straight from Putins mouth.

So the question we have to ask is if it isn't a "pro-russian" right wing website, why is it repeating, without fact checking, Putin's talking points?

Or is this just another example of Russian propaganda through a "conservative" website that totally doesn't work on Trumpers?
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:05 AM   #32
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:14 AM   #33
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400 million? Lmao, sure.
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Old 07-17-2018, 07:19 AM   #34
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400 million? Lmao, sure.
Yeah, that number seems incredibly inflated, considering she spent like 768 million total...I guess she's got a ton of money left over then...
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:23 AM   #35
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I don't know who this guy is but I do know who Kevin Shipp is because I have watched his videos as a former CIA with a high level security clearance before. I also am not sure if there ever will be indictments either. But these unelected Deep Staters are deep in corruption. Very deep.

Essentially Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Lynch, Comey, Rosenstein and Mueller have all been protecting Hillary and have all been involved in criminal activity with her covering it up for her. For instance she provided Comey with a position at Lockheed Martin where he made $6 million in one year. He's one of her fixers as are the others. They are all corrupt and they are all globalist NWO-creating traitors. They are the real traitors betraying America.



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Old 07-17-2018, 08:32 AM   #36
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Strange how the Clinton's are never investigated for ANYTHING, even when a leader of another country claims they were laundering 400 million through their phony Foundation.

Even investigating the Foundation remains out of bounds as well.
This might be true, maybe. I really doubt it though. Putin wants us in chaos, and this is likely just another part in that.

Where's the proof? We should demand the same proof on this as we expect from Mueller.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:38 AM   #37
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Well, the 400 million accusation is straight from Putins mouth.

So the question we have to ask is if it isn't a "pro-russian" right wing website, why is it repeating, without fact checking, Putin's talking points?

Or is this just another example of Russian propaganda through a "conservative" website that totally doesn't work on Trumpers?

Wiki isn’t an arbiter of news or news organizations. It’s not even a credible source, nobody cites wiki in any material they write. You do realize people edit and add fictitious material on there?
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:48 AM   #38
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Yeah, that number seems incredibly inflated, considering she spent like 768 million total...I guess she's got a ton of money left over then...
Of course there’s the Clinton Crime Family Foundation, hundreds of millions were funneled through that operation.

Ceased to exist right after the election, wonder why?
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Never investigated for anything? Were you not paying attention in the 90s?

And you are right, Putin said it this morning, and he is the true leader, so an investigation should be underway immediately!
If Putin said something like this about Trump, the Dems and media would have this front and center demanding action.
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Of course there’s the Clinton Crime Family Foundation, hundreds of millions were funneled through that operation.

Ceased to exist right after the election, wonder why?
Billions per the latest from former CIA Kevin Shipp and she had plenty of co-conspirators covering up her global money laundering operation. Mueller knew of it, covered it up and so did the rest of them whose names keep popping-up has the most vicious attackers of Trump. Now we should all understand why Mueller has been indicting Manafort and others on the type of crimes not having to do with collusion with Russia, but on money laundering etc. 'Cuz that's what their team has been doing.

See that above video I just posted. It's not too long a time investment.
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Wiki isn’t an arbiter of news or news organizations. It’s not even a credible source, nobody cites wiki in any material they write. You do realize people edit and add fictitious material on there?
This doesnt at all address why zerohedge is repeating Putin's talking points or why conservatives fall for it.
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This doesnt at all address why zerohedge is repeating Putin's talking points or why conservatives fall for it.
That’s not what you replied to, you went off on a tangent about ZeroHedge.
My post was specifically about citing wiki as a trusted source.
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