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Old 07-17-2014, 01:58 PM  
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Israel launches ground operation into Gaza

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2



Gaza City (CNN) -- [Breaking news update,Thursday, 3:50 p.m.]
The Israel Defense Forces initiated a ground operation into Gaza late Thursday following 10 days of bombings and airstrikes, the Israeli government said.
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:54 AM   #751
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:39 AM   #752
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Hamas firing a rocket from civillian residential area

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/nd...rockets-571033
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:59 AM   #753
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Hamas firing a rocket from civillian residential area

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/nd...rockets-571033
The Israelis should just ignore it.

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Old 08-05-2014, 10:15 AM   #754
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Fairly disappointing.

A thread that started for a couple hundred posts as a nuanced discussion of the diplomatic difficulties of this conflict has devolved. To put it mildly.

At least we had the first couple hundred posts, though. That's a win.
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Old 08-05-2014, 10:34 AM   #755
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From today's Washington Post

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Mushir al-Masri, a Hamas politician and spokesman, appeared on al-Aqsa television this week, boasting that the Israelis had destroyed only a fraction of the tunnels dug by fighters.

“And we will dig many more, God willing,” he said.


Tunnels used in 2008 war

Gaza is a narrow-waisted coastal enclave bordered by Israel, Egypt and the Mediterranean Sea. Surrounding the area are no-man’s lands, high fences built by Israel and topped with machine guns, and watchtowers. To get at the Israelis, Hamas chose to dig.

In 2006, the group used a tunnel to capture Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, who was held captive for five years. Military officials say tunnels also were widely used during a three-week war between Israel and Hamas that began at the end of 2008.

These tunnels are quite different from the hundreds of smuggling tunnels that until recently connected Gaza and Egypt. Those for-profit passageways were used to ferry food, fuel and even automobiles into the Palestinian territory to bypass Israeli and Egyptian blockades. Hamas, the militant group that controls Gaza, demanded a tax on every item. Israel alleges that those tunnels were used to import weapons and rocket-making materials, as well.

There are also “hundreds, maybe thousands” of other underground structures in Gaza, said Atai Shelach, a former commander of an elite Israeli military engineering unit, describing militant bunkers, stockrooms, command centers and refuges for Hamas leaders and fighters.

The underground passageways are reinforced with concrete, electric lights, trolley tracks and weapons-storage caches and — in at least one case, the Israeli military said — supplied with a “kidnap kit” that included vials of tranquilizers and plastic handcuffs. The tunnels extend for two kilometers (about 11 / 4 miles) or more, starting in greenhouses, basements, mosques and clinics in Gaza and emerging in fields in Israel.

The tunnels were constructed — quietly, methodically, over months and years — by burrowers who used pneumatic drills and were guided by a knowledge of Gaza geology. To foil Israeli surveillance, Hamas hid sand and soil in sacks that United Nations organizations used to distribute bulk food, according to Israeli military officers.

The underground passageways are an average of 60 to 80 feet deep and can have a dozen exits or entrances — like a fork with many tines. Some contain booby traps, which have killed or injured several Israeli soldiers in recent weeks. The Israeli military sends in sniffer dogs and robots with video cameras first; bulldozers and dynamite follow.

“The biggest challenge is to locate the tunnels. Destroying them is simple,” Shelach said. “We won’t find them all. And the minute we leave, they will start digging again.”

Hamas fighters have emerged from tunnels during the past 24 days of fighting to ambush and strike Israeli forces. One video released by Hamas this week shows a group of masked militants, carrying automatic weapons and grenade launchers, crawl from a hole in the ground. They run across a field in daylight and then attack a group of Israeli soldiers manning one of the observation towers along the Gaza border fence. Five soldiers were killed.

Israeli military officials estimate that the tunnels cost $500,000 to $2 million to build and maintain and that one tunnel might take 800 tons of concrete — large investments in a place where Israel has restricted construction materials and Hamas has struggled to pay public workers.
Isn't it nice that they are spending millions on these tunnels instead of doing something to improve things for their population?

Of course, we know Hamas doesn't care about them, they are merely props to be used, cannon fodder for the cameras.
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Old 08-05-2014, 11:26 AM   #756
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Fairly disappointing.

A thread that started for a couple hundred posts as a nuanced discussion of the diplomatic difficulties of this conflict has devolved. To put it mildly.

At least we had the first couple hundred posts, though. That's a win.
Reality is hard. People being rocketed wont get down to nuance.
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Old 08-05-2014, 11:46 AM   #757
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Fairly disappointing.

A thread that started for a couple hundred posts as a nuanced discussion of the diplomatic difficulties of this conflict has devolved. To put it mildly.

At least we had the first couple hundred posts, though. That's a win.
Darn, I think we were on the verge of solving the crisis there for a minute.
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:05 PM   #758
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Fairly disappointing.

A thread that started for a couple hundred posts as a nuanced discussion of the diplomatic difficulties of this conflict has devolved. To put it mildly.

At least we had the first couple hundred posts, though. That's a win.
The only real nuance we need is finding out how to kill more Hamas members. That's pretty much the only way to communicate with those animals.
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:05 PM   #759
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The only real nuance we need is finding out how to kill more Hamas members. That's pretty much the only way to communicate with those animals.
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Old 08-05-2014, 02:06 PM   #760
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Isn't it nice that they are spending millions on these tunnels instead of doing something to improve things for their population?
Yes, and isnt it nice to know that $3 BILLION of it came from your and my taxpayer dollars , just since 2008.....!
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:29 PM   #761
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:33 PM   #762
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Typical cut and run by lefty boyz. Go on back to the Mizzou homer and bullshit threads over your letter jacket.
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Imagine....Hamas breaks the ceasefire Fires two rockets toward Israel tonight.

The fires of hell should be released.
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Imagine....Hamas breaks the ceasefire Fires two rockets toward Israel tonight.

The fires of hell should be released.
It's Israel's fault. I don't know why, but I'm sure CNN will let me know why soon.
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