Fredex NOT in danger of being cut! - Page 2

Big Chief Homer · 08-03-2005, 09:07 AM

I didnt see a post on this yet.

I was reading through some of the press coverage and theres a blurb in the july 31st morning interview where DV states Freddie will be on the team Injury or not.Thats the way i took it anyhow.

Qustion:Is that a set back for him(freddie) because he's new?

DV:It never helps to get hurt...It never helps,but I think that applies more to guys who are struggling to make the football team,than to someone who has already established himself AND WHO YOU KNOW IS GOING TO BE HERE.We wont hold it against him.

Sounds to me like Fred is already set on the 53 man roster unless his injury put him on the PUP.

BCH

milkman · 08-03-2005, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR

You can argue with me all you want. Bottom line is Mitchell is on the squad barring any injury.

Oh I don't doubt it.

Bottom line is that Dick is a senile old bastard that will play favorites to the detriment of his team.

One only need look to Eric Hicks to see the proof of that.

**Reaper16** · 08-03-2005, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

First Clown Freddie has made one big play in his career, a play that was as much the fault of the Packer D as it was the result of anything First Clown did.

And exactly how many catches did First Clown have in that SB?

Yes Boe has had health issues, but that doesn't discount the fact that he's a guy that has potential, especially if his vision issues are resolved.

Richard Smith is always hurt?
How can anyone make that claim of a player that was a rookie last year?

Thorpe hasn't done anything yet.
Neither has DJ. I guess we should just cut his ass right now.

I'd like to think that McNabb's scramble and pass completion to Freddie against Dallas last year was a big play as well.

jspchief · 08-03-2005, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

First Clown Freddie has made one big play in his career...

Talk about dumbass statements.... I think a cliche about glass houses would fit nicely here.

I'm guessing you really have no idea how many big plays Mitchell has made in his career. Just because you can only think of one, doesn't mean that's the only one. Over two-thirds of his career catches have been for first downs.

While he may not be a superstar, I think the point being made was that he has a hell of a lot more experience than the guys you seem to think will replace him.

How many big plays does Richard Smith have? Horn? Boe? Parker?

**the Talking Can** · 08-03-2005, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Talk about dumbass statements.... I think a cliche about glass houses would fit nicely here.

I'm guessing you really have no idea how many big plays Mitchell has made in his career. Just because you can only think of one, doesn't mean that's the only one. Over two-thirds of his career catches have been for first downs.

While he may not be a superstar, I think the point being made was that he has a hell of a lot more experience than the guys you seem to think will replace him.

How many big plays does Richard Smith have? Horn? Boe? Parker?

Fraud-ex has 5 td catches.....for his career....Bo has [insert answer here]....I'm rooting for Bo.

Fradu-ex has averaged 22 catches a year.

htismaqe · 08-03-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Fradu-ex has averaged 22 catches a year.

That's 7.5 more per year than Bo, and I was nice in leaving out Bo's injuries.

**the Talking Can** · 08-03-2005, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's 7.5 more per year than Bo, and I was nice in leaving out Bo's injuries.

Yes, but Bo wasn't a #1 and #2 option the entire time, and he wasn't a #1 draft pick.

We already know that Fred-ex sucks. I'm rooting for Bo and hope that DV gives him a fair chance...which I doubt.

If Freddy is really the best option at #3WR then fine....but I doubt it.

htismaqe · 08-03-2005, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Yes, but Bo wasn't a #1 and #2 option the entire time, and he wasn't a #1 draft pick.

We already know that Fred-ex sucks. I'm rooting for Bo and hope that DV gives him a fair chance...which I doubt.

If Freddy is really the best option at #3WR then fine....but I doubt it.

We KNOW he sucks? Kinda like we knew Priest Holmes sucked? Or Lionel Dalton?

The guy has played for one team, with one QB. Not only that, but SEVERAL people besides Freddie have reported that said QB is hard to get along with.

Sometimes guys need the right situation.

jspchief · 08-03-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Fraud-ex has 5 td catches.....for his career....Bo has [insert answer here]....I'm rooting for Bo.

Fradu-ex has averaged 22 catches a year.

Fred-ex has 4 TDs in the last two years, Boe has zero. Boe has averaged 15 catches per year

I'm rooting for Boe also. I think we need his size, and I like the guy.

But Sidewinder's arguement for why Mitchell was a likely cut was his lack of production. I was simply pointing out that the guys that are in line for that roster spot certainly haven't been any more productive.

I'm sure a search will show I was dead set against getting Mitchell. But now that he's here, I have to recognize that he's as (if not more) likely to be a contributor, when measured against our other depth WRs.

milkman · 08-03-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Talk about dumbass statements.... I think a cliche about glass houses would fit nicely here.

I'm guessing you really have no idea how many big plays Mitchell has made in his career. Just because you can only think of one, doesn't mean that's the only one. Over two-thirds of his career catches have been for first downs.

While he may not be a superstar, I think the point being made was that he has a hell of a lot more experience than the guys you seem to think will replace him.

How many big plays does Richard Smith have? Horn? Boe? Parker?

A lot of receivers make catches to get teams first downs,

Seems like Horn had a big first down catch last year.
So did Parker.
Boe had how many TDs in his rookie season.

If you want to use first down catches as a marker of big plays, then I'll give you that the Clown has made more than one big play.

But the fact that he has never produced at a consistent or high level should eliminate the idea that he's a lock to make the team.

He should have to compete for a roster spot, just like any other bust or 1st or 2nd year player that hasn't proven jack yet.

And jack is exactly what this clown has proven.

**J Diddy** · 08-03-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

A lot of receivers make catches to get teams first downs,

Seems like Horn had a big first down catch last year.
So did Parker.
Boe had how many TDs in his rookie season.

If you want to use first down catches as a marker of big plays, then I'll give you that the Clown has made more than one big play.

But the fact that he has never produced at a consistent or high level should eliminate the idea that he's a lock to make the team.

He should have to compete for a roster spot, just like any other bust or 1st or 2nd year player that hasn't proven jack yet.

And jack is exactly what this clown has proven.

How do you know if that's all he's proven? He must have shown something here for vermeil to make that statement.

jspchief · 08-03-2005, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Yes, but Bo wasn't a #1 and #2 option the entire time, and he wasn't a #1 draft pick.

We already know that Fred-ex sucks. I'm rooting for Bo and hope that DV gives him a fair chance...which I doubt.

If Freddy is really the best option at #3WR then fine....but I doubt it.

Mitchell has never or rarely been a #1 or #2. He's always been in the slot.

How quickly we forget how bad Boerigter sucked in '03. So far, the guy is nothing more than an 8 game wonder that would have crappy stats if it weren't for two plays.

Personally, I hope they both make the team. What I don't get is the way people cling to career practice squad guys like Horn and Smith.

Big Chief Homer · 08-03-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder

But the fact that he has never produced at a consistent or high level should eliminate the idea that he's a lock to make the team.

He should have to compete for a roster spot, just like any other bust or 1st or 2nd year player that hasn't proven jack yet.

And jack is exactly what this clown has proven.

Two words for you.........

TRENT GREEN

Chief Faithful · 08-03-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

We already know that Fred-ex sucks.

I don't know that. He is a young talented player they might turn the corner in KC. If not, then I'll know he sucks because if he can't turn the career around in KC I doubt he can do it anywhere.

Any way it goes I don't see him knocking another WR off the roster that is any better. I'm excited to see what he can do.

milkman · 08-03-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

How do you know if that's all he's proven? He must have shown something here for vermeil to make that statement.

Just like Bartee in previous camps.

htismaqe · 08-03-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

I don't know that. He is a young talented player they might turn the corner in KC. If not, then I'll know he sucks because if he can't turn the career around in KC I doubt he can do it anywhere.

Any way it goes I don't see him knocking another WR off the roster that is any better. I'm excited to see what he can do.

That's exactly it for me.

The guys he's potentially beating out are scrubs AT BEST.

He won't beat out Eddie Kennison or Sammie Parker. He likely won't beat out Boerigter.

The people that stand to lose a roster spot because of Freddie Mitchell are guys that struggled to make the roster BEFORE Mitchell got here.

08-03-2005, 09:07 AM
Big Chief Homer Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: offseason hell Casino cash: $10009985	Fredex NOT in danger of being cut! I didnt see a post on this yet. I was reading through some of the press coverage and theres a blurb in the july 31st morning interview where DV states Freddie will be on the team Injury or not.Thats the way i took it anyhow. Qustion:Is that a set back for him(freddie) because he's new? DV:It never helps to get hurt...It never helps,but I think that applies more to guys who are struggling to make the football team,than to someone who has already established himself AND WHO YOU KNOW IS GOING TO BE HERE.We wont hold it against him. Sounds to me like Fred is already set on the 53 man roster unless his injury put him on the PUP. BCH
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