Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room > Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-02-2013, 05:09 PM  
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
RunKC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Casino cash: $2559611
Strong Safeties to replace Kendrick Lewis

Yeah I know Lewis wasn't a SS, but he'll be replaced and Berry is better served playing FS covering the deep ball, so obviously we need a SS. Who do you like in the draft?

I personally like Bacarri Rambo from Georgia. Zeke Motta, Phillip Thomas and DJ Swearinger look like good options too.

Thoughts?
Posts: 45,653
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 09:30 PM   #2
Titty Meat Titty Meat is offline
Inmem 2.0
 
Titty Meat's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: My house
Casino cash: $2587558
Leave Berry where he is.
Posts: 74,708
Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.Titty Meat is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 09:37 PM   #3
chiefscafan chiefscafan is offline
Veteran
 
chiefscafan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: manhattan beach, CA
Casino cash: $9688215
I would get tj McDonald if he is there
Posts: 4,425
chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.chiefscafan has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 10:14 PM   #4
'Hamas' Jenkins 'Hamas' Jenkins is offline
Now you've pissed me off!
 
'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Casino cash: $8129572
I know we all like the idea of Berry as an Ed Reed type centerfielding ballhawk, but we may have to come to grips with the fact that he can't cover for shit. At this point, he's a better version of Roy Williams.
__________________
"When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
Posts: 74,786
'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.'Hamas' Jenkins is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 10:15 PM   #5
Demonpenz Demonpenz is offline
I got Rice cookin in the micro
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $3402136
I'll take Berry being a pollard type of player
__________________
Posts: 54,193
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 10:23 PM   #6
ChiefRocka ChiefRocka is offline
Veteran
 
ChiefRocka's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: DE
Casino cash: $9785019
Quote:
Originally Posted by Demonpenz View Post
I'll take Berry being a pollard type of player
this post make me sad
Posts: 3,804
ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.ChiefRocka Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2013, 11:08 PM   #7
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $2164088
Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins View Post
I know we all like the idea of Berry as an Ed Reed type centerfielding ballhawk, but we may have to come to grips with the fact that he can't cover for shit. At this point, he's a better version of Roy Williams.
Berry was just fine until Kiffen got ahold of him.

He was a game breaker.

As soon as Kiffen got there and tried to make him a linebacker, his playmaking/game changing ability went south.

2 years before Kiffen:
12 ints
3 tds
487 int return yards

Year with Kiffen:
2 ints
7yards

Kiffen moved him into the box more and took away his speed and ball skills.

I think he needs to go back to what made him a star.
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,043
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 12:10 AM   #8
Wilson8 Wilson8 is offline
Veteran
 
Wilson8's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Kansas City
Casino cash: $3777557
William Moore Atlanta if you move Berry to FS.

Jairus Byrd Buffalo if you keep Berry at SS.

If KC uses the draft to improve their safety position, Duke Williams Nevada or Jonathan Cyprien Florida International might be drafted in the 4th or 5th rounds.
Posts: 3,920
Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.Wilson8 would the whole thing.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 01:25 AM   #9
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $2164088
I'd be ecstatic if we signed Moore or Byrd.
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,043
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 08:10 AM   #10
Ace Gunner Ace Gunner is offline
First Overall
 
Ace Gunner's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: kcmo
Casino cash: $10007271
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief View Post
Berry was just fine until Kiffen got ahold of him.

He was a game breaker.

As soon as Kiffen got there and tried to make him a linebacker, his playmaking/game changing ability went south.

2 years before Kiffen:
12 ints
3 tds
487 int return yards

Year with Kiffen:
2 ints
7yards

Kiffen moved him into the box more and took away his speed and ball skills.

I think he needs to go back to what made him a star.
This is not true.

First, Monty Kiffin runs a Tampa 2 defense as we all know, and this style puts both safeties deep, putting more area in the zone of LB's, who also play deeper than normal.

2nd, because Berry was in cover 2 this splits the field, leaving him to cover one side, normally the #1 WR side of the field. Teams did not throw at Berry that final season because he was such a ball hawk. Hence, the stats fell, but Berry played some good ball that senior season, most experts agree.

3rd, if you slide the safety into the box, you are playing Buddy Ryan's 46 defense. This defensive style is only used during 3rd and short situations, if at all.

When I read posts (not yours) claiming "Berry should be that 46 defensive player" yadayada, I just laugh at the stupidity. That alignment is a situational alignment. Not a base defense.
__________________
The Greatest
Posts: 10,580
Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 09:09 AM   #11
RUSH RUSH is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NY
Casino cash: $10004905
DJ Swearinger is a personal favorite of mine if the Chiefs go this route. Big hitter, versatile, sure tackler and good in coverage. Was asked to pretty much do everything at South Carolina and didn't miss a beat.

I'd say the Chiefs can probably get him in the 3rd. Might go a little earlier if he runs well.

This safety class is a great one. Lewis should be able to be replaced fairly easily. A lot of them are poor tacklers though so that's a big reason I like Swearinger.
Posts: 728
RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 09:15 AM   #12
RUSH RUSH is offline
Starter
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NY
Casino cash: $10004905
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilson8 View Post
William Moore Atlanta if you move Berry to FS.

Jairus Byrd Buffalo if you keep Berry at SS.

If KC uses the draft to improve their safety position, Duke Williams Nevada or Jonathan Cyprien Florida International might be drafted in the 4th or 5th rounds.
Idk man Cyrpien was great at the senior bowl and seems to have a lot of buzz after. I wouldn't be surprised to see Cyrpien go in the late first. 2nd rounder at worst imo.
Posts: 728
RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.RUSH must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 01:42 PM   #13
BossChief BossChief is offline
SuperBowl or bust
 
BossChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
Casino cash: $2164088
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls View Post
This is not true.

First, Monty Kiffin runs a Tampa 2 defense as we all know, and this style puts both safeties deep, putting more area in the zone of LB's, who also play deeper than normal.

2nd, because Berry was in cover 2 this splits the field, leaving him to cover one side, normally the #1 WR side of the field. Teams did not throw at Berry that final season because he was such a ball hawk. Hence, the stats fell, but Berry played some good ball that senior season, most experts agree.

3rd, if you slide the safety into the box, you are playing Buddy Ryan's 46 defense. This defensive style is only used during 3rd and short situations, if at all.

When I read posts (not yours) claiming "Berry should be that 46 defensive player" yadayada, I just laugh at the stupidity. That alignment is a situational alignment. Not a base defense.
You dont watch college football. Don't act like you do.

Kiffen didn't run his standard Tampa 2 at Tennessee and he absolutely did use Berry as a box safety/extra linebacker.
__________________
Dreams do come true...

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
Posts: 47,043
BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BossChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 02:50 PM   #14
Ace Gunner Ace Gunner is offline
First Overall
 
Ace Gunner's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: kcmo
Casino cash: $10007271
well you are correct he did not line them up the way it was back in the day, but Berry played mostly cover 2 and made his tackles from that split safety position.

I did watch a few games that season and what was good about Berry was his jump on the play and his speed coming down to make some big hits and tackles. As we recall, Berry's question mark was whether he would stop the hitting and wrap up.
__________________
The Greatest
Posts: 10,580
Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2013, 03:58 PM   #15
Nightfyre Nightfyre is offline
MVP
 
Nightfyre's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Helena, MT
Casino cash: $3948849
I will be interested to see how good our players suddenly seem with legitimate coaching and a better scheme design. I bet they turn Berry loose a little bit, allowing him to play more instinctively.
Posts: 18,457
Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Nightfyre has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:34 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.