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C-Mac · 12-26-2012, 08:55 AM

By ADAM TEICHER

The Kansas City Star
Despite lack of playing time, Stanzi works to improve.

For quarterback Ricky Stanzi, the final week of the season appears destined to be much like the first and all the others in between. What little practice work he gets will be limited to helping the Chiefs’ defense prepare for Sunday’s final game of the season against the Broncos in Denver.

It is difficult, if not impossible, for a young quarterback to develop that way. But it speaks loudly to what the Chiefs think of Stanzi that in a 2-13 season where they have continually displayed the need for a quarterback, they haven’t given Stanzi a look.

It seems like a wasted season for his development, but Stanzi at least believes he is a better player than he showed during what for him was a rough preseason.

“Every year, you develop,” he said. “There’s no wasted year. You may not be on the field, but there’s been a lot of time spent on watching film, working on footwork, working on the fundamentals, working on your throwing. You’d like to be playing, but you can always get better, and that’s what I’ve been trying to do.”

“You would hope as a player you’re progressing through the season. It’s been great to be able to sit here, learn things and not have to be … sometimes you’re thrown in to a situation you’re not ready for.”

Stanzi looked as though he wasn’t ready to play in the preseason, particularly a turnover-filled game against the Rams in St. Louis. Coach Romeo Crennel acknowledged that the memory is difficult to shake.

“What happened in the preseason happened, but I know he’s grown as a player, grown in the classroom since that time,” Crennel said. “It still comes down to whether I decide to give him a chance or not.

“Getting him on the field becomes more difficult. Not only him, but there are many guys who are behind other guys. You take anybody who’s behind Tamba Hali. He can show improvement, but his chances of getting on the field are not going to be great unless there’s an injury situation.”

The preseason has been over for almost four months, but it is hard for a backup to prove he is a better player since he gets little in the way of meaningful practice time.

“It’s difficult but in practice you can show the progress you’re making, whether it’s fundamental things or your decision making,” said Brady Quinn, who is now the Chiefs’ starting quarterback but was a backup for most of his NFL career. “Everything you do is on film, and it’s not as if the coaches aren’t watching that film.

“That’s one of the biggest differences between college and the NFL is that you have to take it upon yourself to get better each day and to prepare yourself. You don’t get the work that the starters do.”

Crennel indicated that Stanzi was taking that work seriously.

“It’s hard in that situation because he only gets show-team reps,” Crennel said. “On the show team, you have to show that you’ve improved your fundamentals because the show team is not a real test. You’re running off (play) cards, and we circle the guy we want him to throw to so he doesn’t have to read the coverage and all those things. To his credit, he tries to read the coverage and know what coverage is being played … and know whether he would go to the guy that’s being circled. Many times, he’ll come back and say, ‘Hey, this is a set up. I wouldn’t throw to that guy normally.’ I say, ‘I appreciate that, Ricky, but we need to see the ball go to this particular spot.’

“So you can tell a little bit that he’s into it mentally by things like that. He’s made strides. If we deem that we want to give him the chance to show what he can do, then we’ll dress him and see if there’s an opportunity for him to get into a game.”

That won’t happen Sunday unless Crennel has a dramatic change of heart. Stanzi’s contribution will again be to imitate in practice the opposing quarterback, in this case Denver’s Peyton Manning.

It’s not like playing, but it’s all Stanzi has.

“You get to go against the first-team defense,” Stanzi said. “You get to go against some great defenders. You get to work on some of your things. You treat it like a game. You take it seriously and you make it count. If you do that, you’ll be a better player.”

htismaqe · 12-26-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

Division by zero has the same outcome each & every time

Zero is a known quantity, Stanzi is not.

**ptlyon** · 12-26-2012, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Zero is a known quantity, Stanzi is not.

Sorry, should have stated by A zero...

scho63 · 12-26-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I don't want to hear it. He sucks so bad he can't beat out the two pieces of shit we have at QB now.

Ditto

Nirvana58 · 12-26-2012, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Cassel and Stanzi are both Pioli guys. Why wouldn't Pioli and Crennel let him play?

Seriously, how can the quarterback play get any worse. We ran for over 300 yards rushing and still lost. Brady most memoriable play was throwing a horrible pick 6. I don't care how bad of a quarterback Stanzi is but I am almost to the conclusion that anybody can go out there and play better than the the pieces of shit we have under center. It has gotten so bad that I am pining for the days of Thigpen and Huard. There is no reason not to play Stanzi and see what he has. However, almost all of RAC decisions leave me

so can't say I'm not surprised.

lcarus · 12-26-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

I know they are ****ing idiots. I also know they are desperate ****ing idiots who will try anything to save their jobs.

Pioli was extremely attached to Cassel, and I think Crennel is extremely attached to Quinn. That kinda leaves Stanzi out in the cold, even though Cassel and Quinn are extremely shitty so we may as well have played Stanzi. Who cares though at this point? GENO!

mikey23545 · 12-26-2012, 01:49 PM

Ahh, back to the questions no one will ever answer...

If you're convinced Stanzi is a flaming piece of dog shit, why do you care if he starts? Are you afraid he'll cost us a playoff spot? Are you afraid of being proven wrong?

Say you're a big Stanzi fan...Wouldn't you want to see him get a chance to show up all the naysayers?

And if you don't have an opinion one way or the other on Stanzi, why would you care if he plays?

I just would like to see him play out of sheer curiosity...Why don't you?

stevieray · 12-26-2012, 02:44 PM

I don't even care at this point other than to say this team wastes roster spots on mediocre players every year.

just like Croyle, he will walk with buttloads of cash for basically doing nothing.

Reerun_KC · 12-26-2012, 02:49 PM

Ricky, we need a clean up on isle 3, Ricky clean up on isle 3......

whoman69 · 12-26-2012, 02:53 PM

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“Getting him on the field becomes more difficult. Not only him, but there are many guys who are behind other guys. You take anybody who’s behind Tamba Hali. He can show improvement, but his chances of getting on the field are not going to be great unless there’s an injury situation.”

Tamba is playing well. Quinn and Cassel take the game of football back 70 years.

TEX · 12-26-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Ricky, we need a clean up on isle 3, Ricky clean up on isle 3......

Exactly.

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-26-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

They're telling him to throw the ball a certain place instead of allowing him to make his reads on throw to the guy that is, you know, open...

This offense, no matter who is under center, is near the bottom of the league in YPA. Why do you suppose that is?

Read it again. He does that while QBing the show-team. They want him to throw to a particular spot to emulate what the other team does. It's not his job, in that situation, to be Ricky Stanzi. It's his job to impersonate the tendencies of whomever is the opposing QB.

durtyrute · 12-26-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Read it again. He does that while QBing the show-team. They want him to throw to a particular spot to emulate what the other team does. It's not his job, in that situation, to be Ricky Stanzi. It's his job to impersonate the tendencies of whomever is the opposing QB.

I believe the "box" that the coaching staff has presumably put Stanzi in is the reason for his slow development.

Red Beans · 12-26-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Pioli was extremely attached to Cassel, and I think Crennel is extremely attached to Quinn. That kinda leaves Stanzi out in the cold, even though Cassel and Quinn are extremely shitty so we may as well have played Stanzi. Who cares though at this point? GENO!

The greater question is will anyone ever love Ricky Stanzi?

htismaqe · 12-26-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Read it again. He does that while QBing the show-team. They want him to throw to a particular spot to emulate what the other team does. It's not his job, in that situation, to be Ricky Stanzi. It's his job to impersonate the tendencies of whomever is the opposing QB.

Which means he's not getting a chance to show them what HE can do.

I don't see what's so ****ing hard about this.

He's the 3rd string QB on one of the most poorly coached and run teams in the HISTORY OF FOOTBALL.

Is it possible he sucks? ABSOLUTELY. Is it a foregone conclusion? Only if you're a narrow-minded moron.

FringeNC · 12-26-2012, 04:46 PM

Stanzi has a bigger arm than Quinn or Cassel, and is almost certainly smarter -- he got 30 on the Wonderlic. Pioli's handling of the QB position since he has been here is so bizarre no words I can think of do it justice. It could be that Stanzi is as bad as the trash Arizona trots out there, or it could be that Pioli is insane, or both.

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mikey23545 MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10015321	Ahh, back to the questions no one will ever answer... If you're convinced Stanzi is a flaming piece of dog shit, why do you care if he starts? Are you afraid he'll cost us a playoff spot? Are you afraid of being proven wrong? Say you're a big Stanzi fan...Wouldn't you want to see him get a chance to show up all the naysayers? And if you don't have an opinion one way or the other on Stanzi, why would you care if he plays? I just would like to see him play out of sheer curiosity...Why don't you?
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FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1886014	Stanzi has a bigger arm than Quinn or Cassel, and is almost certainly smarter -- he got 30 on the Wonderlic. Pioli's handling of the QB position since he has been here is so bizarre no words I can think of do it justice. It could be that Stanzi is as bad as the trash Arizona trots out there, or it could be that Pioli is insane, or both.
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