Isaac Bruce on Derrick Thomas

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-05-2006, 02:42 PM

Why I hate Isaac Bruce. From a Rick Reilly colum in January of 2000 (I posted this in the game thread, but it deserves its own thread)

TWO MEN. Two flips of fate.

"Do you ever think about Thomas and say, 'That could be me'?" I ask Bruce.

"Oh, no, not at all," Bruce says.

"Why not?" I ask.

"Because as I was flipping, I threw my hands off the wheel and called Jesus' name."

"Does that mean God doesn't love Derrick Thomas?" I ask.

"Oh, no," Bruce says. "I don't know what Derrick said as his car was flipping."

"What about Payne Stewart? He was a Christian man. Does that mean God didn't love Payne Stewart?"

"I have no idea what Payne Stewart said in that plane that day."

"Well, are you saying if Payne Stewart had invoked the name of Jesus Christ, he'd be alive today?"

"Oh, definitely."

"What about the Columbine High student who was asked by one of the killers if she believed in God? She said yes, and he blew her away. How can that be?"

"You don't know what she said, do you?"

"There were witnesses."

"But you weren't there, right?"

TWO MEN. Pray for them both.

JBucc · 11-05-2006, 02:43 PM

Ultra Peanut · 11-05-2006, 02:45 PM

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**Easy 6** · 11-05-2006, 02:48 PM

I'll NEVER look at him the same again, what a BIGGOT

Ultra Peanut · 11-05-2006, 02:52 PM

One guy had a traumatic experience, said magical words that have been hammered into him his entire life, and extrapolated that to believe they applied to every similar situation. Nothing more, nothing less. He was defending his irrational but well-intentioned beliefs, not implying that anyone who's ever died is a terrible person.

Rick Reilly is a talentless scumbag, professionally and personally.

By the way, funny thing about his "there were witnesses" line about Columbine: That never happened. The girl who was asked if she believed in God wasn't shot.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-05-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

By the way, funny thing about his "there were witnesses" line about Columbine: That never happened. The girl who was asked if she believed in God wasn't shot.

Are you sure about that one?? I thought the eye witnesses were the one relaying that message.

Ultra Peanut · 11-05-2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Are you sure about that one?? I thought the eye witnesses were the one relaying that message.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia

The official investigation into the shootings concluded that Cassie did not have the exchange.[1] Witness Craig Scott, brother of Rachel Scott, a girl who was also killed in the massacre, had originally reported that he heard Cassie's voice. When investigators took him back to the scene he indicated that the voice had not come from the area where Bernall had been located. Emily Wyant, who had been sitting with Bernall in the library as the shootings began, confirmed that the exchange did not take place. The official investigation attributed the statement to survivor Valeen Schnurr.[2] Wyant says that she and Bernall were studying together when the gunmen broke in. She says that Cassie prayed, "Dear God. Dear God. Why is this happening? I just want to go home." Suddenly, according to Wyant, Eric Harris slammed his hand onto the table and yelled "Peekaboo!" before fatally shooting Cassie.

Reports alleging that Cassie said "yes" persist.[3]

Thig Lyfe · 11-05-2006, 03:07 PM

I remember reading that column when it first was published. Certainly doesn't make Bruce look good.

PastorMikH · 11-05-2006, 03:09 PM

Bruce is an idiot for talking like this. I see people all the time facing death. Bottom line, when your time is up, your time is up. It really doesn't matter what you believe or what you say. When the Creator says that's it, that's it.

Ultra Peanut · 11-05-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadWolf

I remember reading that column when it first was published. Certainly doesn't make Bruce look good.

Reilly is a sanctimonious twat who "didn't know" about a party at his house in which a 14-year-old was raped.

DenverChief · 11-05-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Wikipedia

Wikipedia?!?! are you insane?

DenverChief · 11-05-2006, 03:27 PM

BTW Bruce is a fuckin dousch bag

Thig Lyfe · 11-05-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Reilly is a sanctimonious twat who "didn't know" about a party at his house in which a 14-year-old was raped.

Wasn't disagreeing with you.

mcan · 11-05-2006, 04:10 PM

I'm not defending superstition, but I think any interviewer that tries to get an athlete into a theological catch 22 is an a$$hole.

Bruce is probably a really great guy. I kinda think that superstition and religion makes idiots out of good men, but that's no reason to demonize them, or try to make them look bad so that your story will sell.

L.A. Chieffan · 11-05-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Reilly is a sanctimonious twat who "didn't know" about a party at his house in which a 14-year-old was raped.

Wait, Mark Chmura was at Rick Reilly's house?

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Isaac Bruce on Derrick Thomas Why I hate Isaac Bruce. From a Rick Reilly colum in January of 2000 (I posted this in the game thread, but it deserves its own thread) TWO MEN. Two flips of fate. "Do you ever think about Thomas and say, 'That could be me'?" I ask Bruce. "Oh, no, not at all," Bruce says. "Why not?" I ask. "Because as I was flipping, I threw my hands off the wheel and called Jesus' name." "Does that mean God doesn't love Derrick Thomas?" I ask. "Oh, no," Bruce says. "I don't know what Derrick said as his car was flipping." "What about Payne Stewart? He was a Christian man. Does that mean God didn't love Payne Stewart?" "I have no idea what Payne Stewart said in that plane that day." "Well, are you saying if Payne Stewart had invoked the name of Jesus Christ, he'd be alive today?" "Oh, definitely." "What about the Columbine High student who was asked by one of the killers if she believed in God? She said yes, and he blew her away. How can that be?" "You don't know what she said, do you?" "There were witnesses." "But you weren't there, right?" TWO MEN. Pray for them both.
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mcan Apr 13,1949 – Dec 15, 2011 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $9996085	I'm not defending superstition, but I think any interviewer that tries to get an athlete into a theological catch 22 is an a$$hole. Bruce is probably a really great guy. I kinda think that superstition and religion makes idiots out of good men, but that's no reason to demonize them, or try to make them look bad so that your story will sell.
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