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Old 04-19-2010, 01:55 PM  
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Anyone ever had a DFS complaint against you?

So a few weeks ago my son was at his grandparents. They were cooking and, my son who is 4 likes to help peel potatoes. They give him a potatoe and a butter knife and he acts all big. He loves it and thinks he is really helping. He does this all the time. Well apparently he gets the bright idea to stab the potatoe. Not smart on his part I know, and he cuts his finger with the knife. They take him to the hospital thinking he will need stitches, they werent required, they used some glue. Anyway the Doctor was kind of a butthole from the very start. He comes in asking my son if his parents always let him play with knives and yatta yatta. He is telling him to stop crying or he will give away his easter basket (week before easter and they gave him one /shrug) Anyway this just makes him cry worse. My wife is really starting to get pissed now. Anyway he puts the glue on and leaves. Today my wife calls and says DFS is investigating the incident and we have 10 days to reply. I am more than irate. If I catch this doctor out, they will arrest me because i will beat him senseless.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:37 PM   #61
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I think people are letting their personal connections cloud what seems to be a common sense line of questioning. Can't speak to how or in what manner in which the stuff was asked. Could have been a dickish way to go about it. But it is hard to disagree with there being concern. Hoping the person or Dr who sees a red flag is a good enough listener to see an accident for what it is.
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:40 PM   #62
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I used to light gas bombs and throw them. I used to climb all the way up very tall evergreen trees. I was swimming in a rocky area in Vermont and fell down a 20 ft waterfall. I played with bottle rockets. I had bb gun wars. I blew up some toys. I would ride my bike and go over huge jumps and sometimes I would fall and scrape a knee. I would go off in deep and far into a thick forest by myself. I got in school yard fist fights. I ran under the kitchen table once and managed to knock something over and it fell on my head and needed stitches. I once tied a rope from the top of our 15 ft deck and I tried to climb down and I fell and broke my arm. I used to swim far out into the ocean. I played with fire quite a bit. I made make-shift weapons.

now, if we had the rules today back then. I would have been taken away from my parents, I would probably be in prison and I would be far worse off. But I'm doing fine and my parents are great. But like I said, with that crap I used to do and those rules we have today existed back then, I'd be in prison still for all of that. I guarantee it.
Yeah, some of that would draw a CPS case. Not on it's own, but in conjunction with something else. That's pretty extreme.

If your parents brought you into the ER with burns and they were telling DR's that they routinely let you play with fire, make gas bombs and other weapons, you'd have more than CPS coming by no matter the generation.

Those sorts of things are far different than coming into the ER with a broken arm because you fell while trying to climb off a deck and the parent is there telling the DR how you tried to tell him to "stop screwing around".
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Old 04-19-2010, 10:54 PM   #63
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Well I talked to the social worker that works at the same school as I do. She said I have absolutely nothing to worry about and that they will drop it immediately after I talk to them. They are required to send that after the doctor sent in his stuff.
Based on your explanation of events, that exactly what I'd expect as well. I can understand being frustrated by the unknown in a situation like that. It's gotta create a bit of panic.



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jaz, are you kidding me. Wth is an ER for? I had stitches all the damn time as a kid. My parents didn't beat me or something stupid. It is absolutely absurd for a Doctor to do that. The ONLY reason he did is because my wife was pissed about the way he was talking and acting. I was told that nothing will come of it but I should sure as hell be pissed at that doctor. The kid had zero bruises and he had zero cause to report that other than being a dick. I'm also going to say me showing up dirty and in camo made him think I was some white trash who couldn't take care of my kids. (listened for turkeys that morning otw to the lake fishing) Can you say stereotype! Basically other than my son needing to be looked at to see if he needed stitches from an accident, of which he did not, there was no reason for him to report it. Your right, I should have knocked his teeth out when he threatened to take my kids basket as he was bawling while looking at his cut.
I can't speak to your exact case since I wasn't there. I can't defend the Dr. Nor can I criticize him.

My point isn't to blame you. You sound like a passionate and caring parent. My point is simply that I see people all too often seeing the world of CPS through the eyes of their own personal interest and IMO it should be viewed through the interest of being sure that the child is safe.

No different really than some neighbor who finds a child wandering around in the street... if that's me, I bring that kid home to his house and in the process look around to make sure there isn't some red-flag that indicates there might be a bigger problem at hand.

In your case, admitting that you allow your child to play with knives combined with a stab wound (I am assuming the kid was holding the potato and shoved the butter knife through it and into his palm)... is a real red-flag.

Either one alone isn't sufficient.
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:01 AM   #64
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Again, it's not about YOU. They are there because someone in a position of trust (in this case a Dr. treating a wounded 4 year old who was admittedly ALLOWED to play with a knife sharp enough to cause a deep enough wound to warrant an ER trip and some glue-stitches) questioning the butterknife story and reporting the incident for follow up.

That's about as reasonable of a false-positive CPS story as I can imagine.

Surely not something anyone wants to deal with, but a perfectly reasonable situation to report.
See,there you go. Trying to tell me what I know. My wife IS a social worker. I know exactly what they do. Dr's are a mandated profession but not for something like this. There is no history of any kind of abuse that HE has record of that would warrant a report to DFS. He was just being an ass. Like I said, I KNOW the process and what it takes. The charges are unfounded.

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Old 04-20-2010, 06:05 AM   #65
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:39 AM   #66
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Complain to the hospital board about the doctor.
This.

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Your state should have a state licensing agency. Complain to them about the Dr's purposeful infliction of emotional distress on your child.
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Then threaten to sue the doc personally and the hospital for any fees you may come out of pocket for.What hospital was this?
But not this.
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:45 AM   #67
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That sucks.

Although this thread is once again filled with short sighted idiots.

The next time there is a thread about kids being kicked and beaten then everyone will wonder why the parents still have control the kids.

So how is DFS supposed to know if a case is neglect, abuse or just nothing? Yeah they have to ask. I guess all you ****ing pillowbiters have esp or something and would just know somehow...


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Old 04-20-2010, 06:55 AM   #68
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Arent you in your mid to late 20's?
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:03 AM   #69
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Their job is looking out for the kids. They aren't there to get you. I don't understand why parents who are inconvenienced by questioning turn so hostile when someone was there in an effort to protect the most beloved part of your life (I assume).

It's not about you. Why make it so?
Is it always reasonable for the parents to get upset? Probably not. But you seriously don't understand it?
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:08 AM   #70
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Yes I got them called on me because my Air Conditioning broke and complained about bad living conditions. Whoever called needs to take a trip to the ghetto or farm houses. Luckily I got a good DFS rep but they were so mad at my neighbor for wasting their time but I was told they pretty much have to respond to every complaint.
That's crazy. I'm glad I don't have neighbors like that.
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We had to fill out a short questionaire once when my daughter fell off her bike and broke her arm. The Dr. had very good manners about it though, and explained that it was protocol for this type of injury (which I completely understand). However, even knowing that, I felt a little defensive about it in the beginning. Now if the Dr. would have been an idiot/jerk like this guy, I would have been very upset.
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:26 AM   #72
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jaz I understand what your saying. I really do. This wasn't some doctor who came in and you could tell he cared about my son. He was loud, obnoxious, and a jerk. Had he been different with my son, I might buy that he is only looking out for him. However when you talk and act like this guy did, he wasn't looking out for the best of my kid. He was being a jerk. I already had a bb gun and pocket knife at his age when I was a kid. We don't live in the city, knives and bb guns are normal stuff for kids around here. While he was givin that privilege and then did something stupid, he now lost that privilege. He knows why. Almost one month ago some friends of ours 6 yr old cut himself much worse with his pocket knife, there was no call on them. Again my point in this whole situation is that the Dr. wasn't looking out for my kid he was pissed because my wife got pissed at him.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:20 AM   #73
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I just don't think that the children's best interest is at heart here. I bet there is a quota or something that they have to fill and I'm sure there is money generated from it as well.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:51 AM   #74
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That's so amazingly ignorant.

The majority of CPS workers quit their jobs and go do something else. There is no shortage of drugged out freaks and child rapists. They don't want to nor do they need to waste time with parents who are caring for their kids even reasonably. Job security is the last thing these people worry about.
Care to back any this bullshit up with actual stats or proof, or are we just supposed to take your word for it that you're an expert on what what a bunch of people you've never met think, want, need and worry about?
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Old 04-20-2010, 09:30 AM   #75
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Care to back any this bullshit up with actual stats or proof, or are we just supposed to take your word for it that you're an expert on what what a bunch of people you've never met think, want, need and worry about?
Eh, give him a break. I remember a time when I was young and naive and thought the gov't had our best interests in mind as well. I blame our school system for that, they're nothing but a propaganda machine. He'll get smacked in the face by reality sooner or later.
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