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Old 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it
Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:01 PM   #271
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It's always "Different". Yet it still remains the same at the end of the season.

For example: Every 7 or 8 years we are told how important the "new" mobile quarterback is to the game. And after two or three seasons of major injuries and pocket passers winning the big game, it goes back to the same routine. Staubach is the only true mobile QB to win a Superbowl (although an argument could be made for Steve Young).

I am curious though, A question for you and those that do support bringing in Geno Smith, do you then believe Joe Flacco deserves his contract? After all, he is the epitome of "Throwing every resource" at the QB position, isn't he?
Doesn't matter what he "deserves". They won a Super Bowl in his walk year, so he had them by the balls and a blank check with his name on it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:02 PM   #272
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Hell Brett farve and Matt hasselbeck, neither could be good by that thinking.


Farve and brunell, farve and Aaron Brooks.


now guess where our GM worked when all those combos of two starting caliber qb's where put together...
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Okay,

let's revise the bet.

To ANYONE who cares to take it, I will make it up to 3 times ($150.00 out of my pocket) with three different people on this board. 50 bucks to the winners' favorite charity(ies) - I bet if the Chiefs keep the #1 that they do not take Geno Smith.

Overall #1 picks do not ride a bench for two years. I can't think of a single one going all the way back to Bill Sims in the 1980 draft.

Any takers?
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Doesn't matter what he "deserves". They won a Super Bowl in his walk year, so he had them by the balls and a blank check with his name on it.
It does matter. Do you believe he is worth 20 million a year with an active salary cap?
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Who said that Geno would ride the bench for 2 years?
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Okay,

let's revise the bet.

To ANYONE who cares to take it, I will make it up to 3 times ($150.00 out of my pocket) with three different people on this board. 50 bucks to the winners' favorite charity(ies) - I bet if the Chiefs keep the #1 that they do not take Geno Smith.

Overall #1 picks do not ride a bench for two years. I can't think of a single one going all the way back to Bill Sims in the 1980 draft.

Any takers?
who is saying he will ride the bench for two years?

Alex Smith is under contract for two years.

He was a back up in sf
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Okay,

let's revise the bet.

To ANYONE who cares to take it, I will make it up to 3 times ($150.00 out of my pocket) with three different people on this board. 50 bucks to the winners' favorite charity(ies) - I bet if the Chiefs keep the #1 that they do not take Geno Smith.

Overall #1 picks do not ride a bench for two years. I can't think of a single one going all the way back to Bill Sims in the 1980 draft.

Any takers?
If you include matt barkley, and we agree that the charity is The SF Mechanics Library Chess Club (a non profit, 403c), Ill take you up!
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Name the immediate impact player in this draft
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I can't, not with certainty. Which includes Geno Smith. However, odds are that Joeckel, Floyd, Milliner, or Fisher would have a much better chance at immediate impact than Geno Smith.
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It does matter. Do you believe he is worth 20 million a year with an active salary cap?
No, it really doesn't. They just won the Super Bowl with him for ****'s sake, so that's reason enough to open the bank if he wanted it.
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who is saying he will ride the bench for two years?

Alex Smith is under contract for two years.

He was a back up in sf
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So you are saying we spent a second round and more for a backup QB?

Should be easy money for you then. Take the bet against me, name your charity and make them 50 bucks.

When you lose I need a check mailed to me completed for the Eddie Kennison Lupus Foundation. I will supply my address to you privately if you take the bet.
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No, it really doesn't. They just won the Super Bowl with him for ****'s sake, so that's reason enough to open the bank if he wanted it.
That alone makes no sense in itself.

Do you believe he is worth 20 million a year for 6 years? Your failure to answer speaks volumes.
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So you are saying we spent a second round and more for a backup QB?

Should be easy money for you then. Take the bet against me, name your charity and make them 50 bucks.

When you lose I need a check mailed to me completed for the Eddie Kennison Lupus Foundation. I will supply my address to you privately if you take the bet.
Or they could just donate right here.

http://www.eddiekennisonfoundation.com/donate.php
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If you include matt barkley, and we agree that the charity is The SF Mechanics Library Chess Club (a non profit, 403c), Ill take you up!
Actually, that one scares me. Reid has an unusual affection for Barkley.
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Or they could just donate right here.

http://www.eddiekennisonfoundation.com/donate.php
I would prefer to see the payment made. I would be glad to honor the bet if I lost under the same terms.

Which I won't lose.
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Actually, that one scares me. Reid has an unusual affection for Barkley.
Heh..I didnt really care win or lose, maybe ill just send something to kennison's foundation......

good idea on the bets though! fun & helpful
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That alone makes no sense in itself.

Do you believe he is worth 20 million a year for 6 years? Your failure to answer speaks volumes.
He wins games in the postseason including quite a few on the road, so yeah I think that makes him worth a huge chunk of change. They contend every year and make noise in the postseason. What more do you want?
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