Chiefs The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it - Page 21

Fat Elvis · 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.

**SAUTO** · 03-05-2013, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

That alone makes no sense in itself.

Do you believe he is worth 20 million a year for 6 years? Your failure to answer speaks volumes.

Except the contract won't make it 6 years.

Have you paid attention? they are all bs. It's all about guaranteed money.

Brady signed a REAL contract. 57 million guaranteed. No bs
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**Ming the Merciless** · 03-05-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Now, if I lose, I demand an autographed pick of Mr. Donaldson. God knows it will be worth a fortune if he ever plays the MIT Greenblatt.

You in Boston??

I believe the SF Mechanics are in the same leauge as the "New England Nor'easters"

http://uschessleague.com/standings-2012.php

**SAUTO** · 03-05-2013, 06:34 PM

I'm going for the cortical foundation.

Polimicrogyria research
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Pasta Little Brioni · 03-05-2013, 06:37 PM

Pawn you a pro?

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-05-2013, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Pawn you a pro?

no........

I'm a slightly above average 'club player'.....

You pretty much have to be a master to make much money in Chess.....

okcchief · 03-05-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

Dorsey just cheesed out on the radio when Kevin K asked about drafting a QB.

Never say never

Can you elaborate?

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-05-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief

Can you elaborate?

I was curious what cheesed out meant also

whoman69 · 03-05-2013, 07:06 PM

I'll believe it when I see it. If they trade Albert, no way this happens.

**kysirsoze** · 03-05-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

If wanting to bang Boxxy makes one a creep, I don't wanna be anything else!

Well she's 16 in that video so...

Red Dawg · 03-05-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Again, Steve McNair sat his first two seasons with the Titans (at least a season and a half), and I'm thinking everyone here would let Geno sit for a season or two if the end result was a Super Bowl berth. There would be no crime in taking Geno. Our QB situation is far worse than our tackle situation, and Dorsey/Reid do seem to understand that you just won't win in this league without a capable QB. Unfortunately for Alex Smith, he doesn't seem to be quite so durable. The Chiefs need quarterback upgrades in the worst way. Hell, I wouldn't be against them beinging in Matt Moore while drafting Geno, and let Geno ride third string this year.

Taking a QB in the first wound completely undermind Alex as the leader. They wont do it. Trade 34 for a QB and use our number one on a QB is not going to happen. His deal will probably get some type of extension and we will have live with it. Andy is in full win now mode not hold down the fort while this kid practices mode.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-05-2013, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

Taking a QB in the first wound completely undermind Alex as the leader. They wont do it. Trade 34 for a QB and use our number one on a QB is not going to happen. His deal will probably get some type of extension and we will have live with it. Andy is in full win now mode not hold down the fort while this kid practices mode.

The Chiefs didn't trade their second round pick this year for a QB, just to turn around and draft a QB #1 overall, which basically means the veteran is looking over his shoulder during training camp and regular season.

You'd split the loyalties of both offense and defense, especially if there was a bad game or two, and completely mind **** your team by even making such a move.

Alex Smith will be the guy in 2013. Love it or hate it.

**BossChief** · 03-05-2013, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs didn't trade their second round pick this year for a QB, just to turn around and draft a QB #1 overall, which basically means the veteran is looking over his shoulder during training camp and regular season.

You'd split the loyalties of both offense and defense, especially if there was a bad game or two, and completely mind **** your team by even making such a move.

Alex Smith will be the guy in 2013. Love it or hate it.

This is a unique situation, though.

If they think Geno as a good chance at being top notch, but also has a flaw that scares them about him, why not hedge their bets by signing a guy that can hit the field right away while Geno learns the offense, the play calls, the protections, the personnel and has time to be prepared?

Alex Smith gives them a dependable game manager that is a top notch teammate so that if the Geno pick doesn't work out, they don't fall flat on their face because of it...but if it works out they look lik complete geniuses.

Just like the guys who selected Kaepernick, Wilson and Rodgers.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-05-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

Now that I sit here and read this and the responses, I think Reid/Dorsey are going for Barkley. I think they are going to try and convince a team to trade up for our pick to draft Geno, then they will slide back a bit, but still in the top 10, and take Barkley and use Alex as insurance to make sure Barkley heals properly.

Dude, I'll run right the **** to my computer, buy a Barkley jersey, and wear it with pride. Just DO THE ****ING DEAL FOR CHRISTS SAKE. Do it for SAUTO! DO IT FOR SAKe! I DONT GIVE A **** WHY ANYMORE.
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Red Dawg · 03-05-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

This is a unique situation, though.

If they think Geno as a good chance at being top notch, but also has a flaw that scares them about him, why not hedge their bets by signing a guy that can hit the field right away while Geno learns the offense, the play calls, the protections, the personnel and has time to be prepared?

Alex Smith gives them a dependable game manager that is a top notch teammate so that if the Geno pick doesn't work out, they don't fall flat on their face because of it...but if it works out they look lik complete geniuses.

Just like the guys who selected Kaepernick, Wilson and Rodgers.

Favre was GB boy and in no danger. Flynn was not handed the keys from the get go and Kaep was a project for a year selected by the HC. Alex will be given the job and most likely a new contract. Andy and Dorsey committed to him with the picks.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-05-2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

There are legions of people opposed to taking a quarterback. They've spent the last week celebrating their righteous victory and ordering Alex Smith fatheads. There are plenty who would just fall in line, but those aren't the ones who've spent the last two months drawing lines in the sand.

If there really are legions of these useless ****s, then I do not feel one iota bad about reevaluating my relationship with the Chiefs.
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03-05-2013, 11:03 AM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $1531925	The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1. People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily. What? That is nonsense! Only in the traditional sense. I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one. If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well. Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you. If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat. It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over. Reid and Dorsey get this. As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs. We are being built to win. We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies. We are going to win. And I like it.
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