Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 336

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

duncan_idaho · 05-30-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

But it's not our decision. I don't think there is a competent soul in KC that wouldn't love to see that group buy the R's. But Glass ain't selling. He's making a killing.

Yes. It would be nice to know how much he's actually making a year. It's hard to imagine he's clearing more than $10 million/year, but who knows?

Maybe we can hire a Batman-type to intimidate the Glasses into selling. Anybody know that guy?

ChiefsCountry · 05-30-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Yes. It would be nice to know how much he's actually making a year. It's hard to imagine he's clearing more than $10 million/year, but who knows?

Maybe we can hire a Batman-type to intimidate the Glasses into selling. Anybody know that guy?

Reports were the Cerner group about purchased them last year.
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KevB · 05-30-2013, 11:07 AM

Feels like a PR move, all the way down to the interim tag.

Oh, and just what a young player needs....more voices in his head telling him to adjust this and transfer that and load there. Fine, Brett. Don't need anyone else; there has to be a consistent message (and the message can't be there's no reason to try to hit home runs). I have to think that interview yesterday was the death knell for both hitting coaches.

Deberg_1990 · 05-30-2013, 11:10 AM

Charlie Lau worked miracles with a young Matthew Broderick.
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Deberg_1990 · 05-30-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Toadkiller

#Royals announce George Brett and Pedro Grifol will now serve as hitting coaches.

Who the hell is Pedro?

Anything to deflect away from the true problem. Dayton Moore.
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FringeNC · 05-30-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I think that was J.P. Ricciardi who was the asshole.

Yeah, had heard that about him, but not DePodesta. Only thing about DePodesta is I remember reading something about his character being written out of Moneyball and replaced by a composite character for some reason.

siberian khatru · 05-30-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Yeah, had heard that about him, but not DePodesta. Only thing about DePodesta is I remember reading something about his character being written out of Moneyball and replaced by a composite character for some reason.

DePodesta didn't give them permission to use him.

**Dartgod** · 05-30-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Toadkiller

Who the hell is Pedro?

A career minor leaguer.

.226/.276/.323

http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=grifol001ped

Mr. Laz · 05-30-2013, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toadkiller

#Royals announce George Brett and Pedro Grifol will now serve as hitting coaches.

Who the hell is Pedro?

somewhere Seitzer sits laughing

**DeezNutz** · 05-30-2013, 11:21 AM

Desperate and meaningless move is desperate and meaningless.

Wake me when DM is fired.

BlackHelicopters · 05-30-2013, 11:28 AM

Cosmetic move is cosmetic

stonedstooge · 05-30-2013, 11:30 AM

George's first rule of order. Every inning you don't hit a home run I have to take a drink.

BlackHelicopters · 05-30-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge

George's first rule of order. Every inning you don't hit a home run I have to take a drink.

Probably true.

KCUnited · 05-30-2013, 11:32 AM

Hosmer still can't get around on a fastball, but at least he'll be able to square up that 8ball.

**ChiTown** · 05-30-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Desperate and meaningless move is desperate and meaningless.

Wake me when DM is fired.

So, I get why they needed to make a change with the hitting coaches, but seriously, George Brett?

George is great in the Spring to encourage and help out when needed - figure head/spokes model type. He is NOT ever going to be a great coach of any kind. It's not in his makeup. He loved playing baseball, but he does not like coaching it. This is just ****ing stupid, and makes the Royals look desperate....................okay, I guess that they are desperate. Still. if you have broken leg, you don't take Advil to get better. You take Advil to smooth over the pain. We still haven't addressed the broken leg.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
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