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Old 11-30-2008, 02:14 PM  
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Should the Chiefs have drafted Flacco over Dorsey?

Hmmmmm....


IM just saying....
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Old 01-04-2015, 04:28 PM   #271
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You aren't getting it. "Consensus" is bullshit and not a valid excuse for a **** up. You ****ed up.. plain and simple. What's the point of having your own guys if you want to blame the "consensus"?

Pioli was the "consensus" top guy. Clark ****ed up. I don't want to hear Clark went out and got the top consensus guy ever
Andy Reid was the "consensus" best head coach available in 2013, yet Bruce Arians has had more success.
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Old 01-04-2015, 04:29 PM   #272
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Andy Reid was the "consensus" best head coach available in 2013, yet Bruce Arians has had more success.
He has? How so?
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One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:01 PM   #273
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He has? How so?


Arizona has no QB issues at least. Oh wait.
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:02 PM   #274
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He has? How so?
Are you joking?
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:04 PM   #275
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Are you joking?
No. Arians made the playoffs once in two years and lost his first playoff game. Same as Reid.
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:07 PM   #276
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Are you joking?
In what real way is Arizona better off then KC right now?
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Old 01-04-2015, 05:22 PM   #277
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In what real way is Arizona better off then KC right now?
Arians, IMO, is a better head coach. He forces the ball down field, his offense and defensive philosophy is aggressive, aggressive and more aggressive.

He had the NFC West locked up before Carson Palmer was lost for the season, yet he continued to win with Drew Stanton. The main reason they failed to win more than 11 was due to their QB position and let's face it, not many, if any, NFL teams are going to win with a 3rd stringer. Furthermore, like KC, the Cardinals lost two of their best defenders for the season in Daryl Washington and Darnell Dockett.

And as far as being better off? Well, they actually have receivers that can catch the ball and stretch the field.

Oh yeah, and score touchdowns.
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Old 01-10-2015, 04:00 PM   #278
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Old 01-10-2015, 04:30 PM   #279
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Old 01-10-2015, 04:33 PM   #280
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Arians, IMO, is a better head coach. He forces the ball down field, his offense and defensive philosophy is aggressive, aggressive and more aggressive.

He had the NFC West locked up before Carson Palmer was lost for the season, yet he continued to win with Drew Stanton. The main reason they failed to win more than 11 was due to their QB position and let's face it, not many, if any, NFL teams are going to win with a 3rd stringer. Furthermore, like KC, the Cardinals lost two of their best defenders for the season in Daryl Washington and Darnell Dockett.

And as far as being better off? Well, they actually have receivers that can catch the ball and stretch the field.

Oh yeah, and score touchdowns.
Arians was the exact guy I was pimping to hopefully be our next head coach.

Oh what could have been.
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Old 01-10-2015, 04:45 PM   #281
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Old 01-10-2015, 05:21 PM   #283
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Arians has accomplished very little as a head coach at this point. This sounds like one of those CP legend before the legend being born again.

For the record I wanted Chip Kelley, that being said neither Kelley or Arians has the resume Reid has at this point.

4 straight championship games is nothing to sneeze at and is rare air.

We will see how much of it was Reid but the fact is he took a 2-14 team to its first back to back winning seasons in a decade.

The dichotomy is he alone probably cost us 2 games this season. He gives and he takes. We will see if its worth it in the end.
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Old 01-10-2015, 05:33 PM   #284
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Well, I didn't think that highly of Arians when he was hired. Thought he was too much of a player's coach and a guy with the Martz pass-happy scheme that gets QBs gets killed. He's proven me wrong. Been one hell of a coach so far.

What's so bizarre about this year is that in the only year where he's learned to protect his QB (I think this is 1 of the only seasons his entire HC/OC career where his QB took less than 40 sacks), it also happens to be the year where he loses 2 QBs to injury. Funny how that works sometimes.
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Old 01-10-2015, 05:42 PM   #285
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The Chiefs are in a MUCH better place going forward than the cardinals. Literally half of their starters are over 30 years old. and we have a lot more young talent than they do.
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