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Old 02-19-2018, 05:14 PM  
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Experts rank Trump as worst president, Obama 8th best

How Does Trump Stack Up Against the Best — and Worst — Presidents?

James Buchanan, who was at the helm as the United States careened into civil war, was dislodged from his position as our nation’s worst president by our current president, Trump.

His Oval Office predecessor, Barack Obama, shot into the Top 10, up from 18th in the previous survey. Ulysses S. Grant also got a bump, up seven places from 2014, perhaps owing to a strong assist from Ron Chernow’s recent masterpiece.

The biggest declines were for Bill Clinton, arguably the result of contemporary scorn for his treatment of women, and Andrew Jackson, for evolving attitudes on his treatment of Native Americans.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...residents.html
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Old 02-19-2018, 05:59 PM   #16
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LBJ in the top ten? Nixon not in the bottom ten? Yeah...they're full of shit.
Any sane person knew the list would be bullshit just from the thread title.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:01 PM   #17
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Any sane person knew the list would be bullshit just from the thread title.
I should have known it would be bullshit just because it was from the New York Times.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:04 PM   #18
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Obama ahead of Reagan...
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:06 PM   #19
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Spot on. Without any question or doubt. Always said O was top ten president.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:08 PM   #20
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:09 PM   #21
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If I take Trump and Obama, easily the two most contentious presidents, out of the conversation that is still a horrible list.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:10 PM   #22
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Obama ahead of Reagan...
His Oval Office predecessor, Barack Obama, shot into the Top 10, up from 18th in the previous survey


Just incredible given his failure to protect American democracy from the Russians
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:11 PM   #23
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:14 PM   #24
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If I take Trump and Obama, easily the two most contentious presidents, out of the conversation that is still a horrible list.
They almost always are, because the list makers almost never find a way to adjust for their biases.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:15 PM   #25
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They almost always are, because the list makers almost never find a way to adjust for their biases.
In the survey, Dem scholars named Obama 2nd choice to go up next on Rushmore, after FDR. I'm not joking.
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Old 02-19-2018, 06:31 PM   #28
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Telling that the Republicans still have Trump in the bottom 5.
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His Oval Office predecessor, Barack Obama, shot into the Top 10, up from 18th in the previous survey


Just incredible given his failure to protect American democracy from the Russians

ISIS grows to 40,000 in Irag and Syria during Obama's tenure... A little over a year into Trump's it is diminished to less than 500... NYT
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Telling that the Republicans still have Trump in the bottom 5.
Republican Scholars... That is any college professor that is left of center, or a traditional Democrat.
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