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bowener · 05-07-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

6?

damn

My guess is he gets at least 1 or 2 movies solely about the Hulk, and the rest he makes an appearance in other Marvel movies.

beach tribe · 05-07-2012, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kaplin42

Saw the movie last night. It was epic. I don't read the comics, but watch animated stuff when ever I see it.

In any event, the movie did everthing that's already been mentioned. Action, character development, comedy, special FX, all of it top notch.

I would ask one of the more informed comic readers to spoiler Thanos for me a bit please. Just a basic who is he/it"?

http://marvel.com/universe/Thanos
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanos

beach tribe · 05-07-2012, 12:43 PM

Any one who is really interested in who Thanos is needs to read the "Infintity Gauntlet" series. It's a 7 book series, and is what this is all going to be about. It's the biggest most epic story in comic book history.
I'm pretty sure they offer the whole story in one book now. Great read. Totally worth the effort of finding.

**Bowser** · 05-07-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Any one who is really interested in who Thanos is needs to read the "Infintity Gauntlet" series. It's a 7 book series, and is what this is all going to be about. It's the biggest most epic story in comic book history.
I'm pretty sure they offer the whole story in one book now. Great read. Totally worth the effort of finding.

To take this another, even more nerdier route -

This is another reason why to be pissed they just completely ****ed up the story of the Silver Surfer and Galactus in that idiotic Fantastic Four film. If you're going to take on the story of the Infinity Gauntlet in a movie, the Surfer and Galactus are crucial, iirc. Not to mention how many down the road crossover movies they could have with the Avengers and FF, and also not to mention Spider Man and the X-Men.

What could have been (and may still be, who knows).

keg in kc · 05-07-2012, 02:14 PM

Just saw it. I'm pretty tired, which usually makes my reactions more negative, but that was awesome. Great emotional mix. Great mix in general. It was just epic enough without being crazy out there, the characters were a blend of strength and weakness, there was great action, great personal moments, a great balance between funny moments and moments with gravitas. The stakes felt 'real' although I thought the setup at the beginning was a little bit too vague. But I've always thought the strength of Whedon's work is that he never treats his audience like they're stupid, never dumbs down what he does, and that approach works great in this film. You get introduced to everyone but without the standard long, dull exposition explaining everything to we the moron audience. He just straps us in and goes full speed, dares us to keep up, and it works great. Tonally it's the polar opposite of Nolan's dark and gritty work, but it's the same thing in spirit: a 'comic book' movie for people who don't dismiss comic books in general as being silly things for kids.

So much to like about it. I could go on and on and on....

(I should add that I saw it on a normal digital screen, no "IMAX", no 3D - glad I didn't spend the extra $$$ because I didn't need to; it was awesome without it)

Oh, and total tangent: the Prometheus trailer looked so amazing on the big screen. God, I can't wait for movie that to hit.

Deberg_1990 · 05-07-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

This is another reason why to be pissed they just completely ****ed up the story of the Silver Surfer and Galactus in that idiotic Fantastic Four film. If you're going to take on the story of the Infinity Gauntlet in a movie, the Surfer and Galactus are crucial, iirc. Not to mention how many down the road crossover movies they could have with the Avengers and FF, and also not to mention Spider Man and the X-Men.

What could have been (and may still be, who knows).

Fantastic 4 was made by inferior talent IMO and i believe FOX still owns the rights? Ill bet Marvel would kill to get Spidey, FF and X-Men back. Although i throughly enjoyed X-Men First Class.

keg in kc · 05-07-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Fantastic 4 was made by inferior talent IMO and i believe FOX still owns the rights?

I think it would be hilarious if they kept the same cast, and you had Human Torch being like Captain America's long long twin. Or something.

mr. tegu · 05-07-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I think it would be hilarious if they kept the same cast, and you had Human Torch being like Captain America's long long twin. Or something.

I never even saw Fantastic Four. It just didn't look good, plus the fact that the characters are not as much of household names to non comic book readers.

mr. tegu · 05-07-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Oh, and total tangent: the Prometheus trailer looked so amazing on the big screen. God, I can't wait for movie that to hit.

That movie looks pretty dumb to me. The first part of the trailer is cool...but then the movie turns so typical and predictable with its whole "world could end scenario because of our discovery."

ThaVirus · 05-07-2012, 02:59 PM

Ok, so I pretty much agree with most of the things said in this thread, except Buck's "desires". Seriously, what are you smoking, guy? Put that shit down..

The movie had a pretty decent plot, albeit very similar to Transformers 3, great character development, great acting, and great action. A++ flick and a great ****ing start to the summer.

There was wayyyy more comedy than I thought there'd be. Sooo many one-liners that had the theater cracking up from start to finish. And not just from Downey Jr either. Everyone got a decent amount of screen time and everyone shined. I was particularly pleased with Black Widow and Hawkeye. I was worried they'd be lame; but they were actually pretty badass and I never felt like they robbed screen time from the big boys.

Spoiler!

Speaking of the big boys: the Hulk. Ooooooooohweeeee! EVERY moment with him on screen was crazy epic. From the Thor fight (failing to pick up the hammer was a great nerd inclusion) and subsequently punching him for payback in the final fight, to rolling up on a scooter to the final battle- "That's my secret... I'm always angry" *stops giant worm thingy with one punch* LIKE A BAUCE!, and ending with the Loki "ragdoll" scene, which had to be the movie's funniest moment. Seriously, the theater laughed for like 30 seconds straight after that scene.

I also liked the fanboy/nerdgasm moments they had in the film. Hulk vs. Thor, Hulk trying to pick up Mjolnir, Iron Man vs. Thor, Thor putting the hammer down on Cap's shield, Cap commanding the Avengers on the battlefield. My personal favorite had to be the continuous scene of the Avengers in the final battle. You had Black Widow and Hawkeye doing their thing, Iron Man murking bitches in the air then lands and pulls a tag-team with Cap on the ground, then it pans up to the Hulk and Thor wrecking shit on top of that worm thingy. If there were any part in the film that I would have squealed, that would have been it. I could go on forever, but did you guys catch the news broadcast at the end? The politician was berating the heroes for trashing the city and disappearing, saying they need to be held accountable. That was an obvious reference to the Civil War and I think they set the groundwork for the Stark vs. Rogers dynamo in this film. Not to mention Thanos after the credits. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to move up to him so quickly. From the little I know, he's pretty much the biggest, baddest baddie. Hopefully they nail it as well as they did this one, however they proceed.

My one complaint I have, which isn't even really a complaint- just me nitpicking, was that they didn't really highlight Cap's abilities as well as they did Iron Man and Hulk. In the comics, Cap is probably the most respected character in the Marvel Universe based on his ideals, tactical ability, and combat prowess. They showed the first two in the film masterfully, but didn't quite deliver on the third in my eyes. In the final battle he just kind of becomes the unquestioned leader but they didn't do a great job of showing why that's the case. Why would a narcissistic, egotistical lone wolf, the God of thunder, and a pure rage monster even bother listening to his orders? I thought they needed a scene or two of Cap showing off his skills in battle that commanded the respect and attention of his teammates and they never really did that. Basically, I wanted to see Cap whoop more ass!

All in all, this film was ****ing great and I didn't have much to bitch about. My one 'complaint' was just me wanting too much from a 2 and a 1/2 hour film that already delivered on all possible counts. I'd recommend this to anyone and its definitely deserving of all the records it's breaking.

***EDIT***

Spoiler!

ThaVirus · 05-07-2012, 03:08 PM

Well, Marvel also need to get the rights to Spider-Man, X-Men and the Fantastic Four. The Avengers has been out for 4 days on a $200+ million budget AND IT'S ALREADY ****ING MADE MONEY. That is absolutely mind-boggling. I see no reason as to why they can't either buy out Sony and Fox completely, or come to some sort of deal and be "lent" the rights for future Avengers installments.

At the very least I want to see Luke Cage and/or Black Panther by the time they hit Avengers 3. I'm sure Black Panther and Wakanda's tech will come into play if they decide to go the Thanos route, but I'm not sure how, or if they'd even care to attempt to include Luke Cage in some way.

**007** · 05-07-2012, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I never even saw Fantastic Four. It just didn't look good, plus the fact that the characters are not as much of household names to non comic book readers.

I wouldn't mind seeing Jessica in that skin tight uni again though.

keg in kc · 05-07-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I never even saw Fantastic Four. It just didn't look good, plus the fact that the characters are not as much of household names to non comic book readers.

I never saw it either. It was a joke about Chris Evans.

**007** · 05-07-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I never saw it either. It was a joke about Chris Evans.

Still hard to believe both are played by the same guy.

Deberg_1990 · 05-07-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

***EDIT***

Spoiler!

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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Just saw it. I'm pretty tired, which usually makes my reactions more negative, but that was awesome. Great emotional mix. Great mix in general. It was just epic enough without being crazy out there, the characters were a blend of strength and weakness, there was great action, great personal moments, a great balance between funny moments and moments with gravitas. The stakes felt 'real' although I thought the setup at the beginning was a little bit too vague. But I've always thought the strength of Whedon's work is that he never treats his audience like they're stupid, never dumbs down what he does, and that approach works great in this film. You get introduced to everyone but without the standard long, dull exposition explaining everything to we the moron audience. He just straps us in and goes full speed, dares us to keep up, and it works great. Tonally it's the polar opposite of Nolan's dark and gritty work, but it's the same thing in spirit: a 'comic book' movie for people who don't dismiss comic books in general as being silly things for kids. So much to like about it. I could go on and on and on.... (I should add that I saw it on a normal digital screen, no "IMAX", no 3D - glad I didn't spend the extra $$$ because I didn't need to; it was awesome without it) Oh, and total tangent: the Prometheus trailer looked so amazing on the big screen. God, I can't wait for movie that to hit.
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05-07-2012, 02:59 PM	#310
ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2182369	Ok, so I pretty much agree with most of the things said in this thread, except Buck's "desires". Seriously, what are you smoking, guy? Put that shit down.. The movie had a pretty decent plot, albeit very similar to Transformers 3, great character development, great acting, and great action. A++ flick and a great **ing start to the summer. There was wayyyy more comedy than I thought there'd be. Sooo many one-liners that had the theater cracking up from start to finish. And not just from Downey Jr either. Everyone got a decent amount of screen time and everyone shined. I was particularly pleased with Black Widow and Hawkeye. I was worried they'd be lame; but they were actually pretty badass and I never felt like they robbed screen time from the big boys. Spoiler!** Speaking of the big boys: the Hulk. Ooooooooohweeeee! EVERY moment with him on screen was crazy epic. From the Thor fight (failing to pick up the hammer was a great nerd inclusion) and subsequently punching him for payback in the final fight, to rolling up on a scooter to the final battle- "That's my secret... I'm always angry" stops giant worm thingy with one punch LIKE A BAUCE!, and ending with the Loki "ragdoll" scene, which had to be the movie's funniest moment. Seriously, the theater laughed for like 30 seconds straight after that scene. I also liked the fanboy/nerdgasm moments they had in the film. Hulk vs. Thor, Hulk trying to pick up Mjolnir, Iron Man vs. Thor, Thor putting the hammer down on Cap's shield, Cap commanding the Avengers on the battlefield. My personal favorite had to be the continuous scene of the Avengers in the final battle. You had Black Widow and Hawkeye doing their thing, Iron Man murking bitches in the air then lands and pulls a tag-team with Cap on the ground, then it pans up to the Hulk and Thor wrecking shit on top of that worm thingy. If there were any part in the film that I would have squealed, that would have been it. I could go on forever, but did you guys catch the news broadcast at the end? The politician was berating the heroes for trashing the city and disappearing, saying they need to be held accountable. That was an obvious reference to the Civil War and I think they set the groundwork for the Stark vs. Rogers dynamo in this film. Not to mention Thanos after the credits. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to move up to him so quickly. From the little I know, he's pretty much the biggest, baddest baddie. Hopefully they nail it as well as they did this one, however they proceed. My one complaint I have, which isn't even really a complaint- just me nitpicking, was that they didn't really highlight Cap's abilities as well as they did Iron Man and Hulk. In the comics, Cap is probably the most respected character in the Marvel Universe based on his ideals, tactical ability, and combat prowess. They showed the first two in the film masterfully, but didn't quite deliver on the third in my eyes. In the final battle he just kind of becomes the unquestioned leader but they didn't do a great job of showing why that's the case. Why would a narcissistic, egotistical lone wolf, the God of thunder, and a pure rage monster even bother listening to his orders? I thought they needed a scene or two of Cap showing off his skills in battle that commanded the respect and attention of his teammates and they never really did that. Basically, I wanted to see Cap whoop more ass! All in all, this film was **ing great and I didn't have much to bitch about. My one 'complaint' was just me wanting too much from a 2 and a 1/2 hour film that already delivered on all possible counts. I'd recommend this to anyone and its definitely deserving of all the records it's breaking. EDIT Spoiler! Why'd they have to kill my dawg Agent Coulson!?! I *ing loved that guy! :'( Last edited by ThaVirus; 05-07-2012 at 03:09 PM..*
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05-07-2012, 03:08 PM	#311
ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2182369	Well, Marvel also need to get the rights to Spider-Man, X-Men and the Fantastic Four. The Avengers has been out for 4 days on a $200+ million budget AND IT'S ALREADY ****ING MADE MONEY. That is absolutely mind-boggling. I see no reason as to why they can't either buy out Sony and Fox completely, or come to some sort of deal and be "lent" the rights for future Avengers installments. At the very least I want to see Luke Cage and/or Black Panther by the time they hit Avengers 3. I'm sure Black Panther and Wakanda's tech will come into play if they decide to go the Thanos route, but I'm not sure how, or if they'd even care to attempt to include Luke Cage in some way.
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