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Old 10-09-2012, 04:36 PM   Topic Starter
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So Cassel is clearly the wrong guy, but what should Pioli have done?

So with my finely tuned senses and amazing powers of perception, I have detected some small modicum of dislike for Mr. Cassel, and for Mr. Pioli as well. I realize that the hatred of Pioli is for more reasons than going with Cassel, but it seems to me that not only is the Cassel deal a big part of why people hate him, but a part of why the Chiefs are losing so much, which also leads to hating the GM who built the team.

Putting aside the keep Orton option, which I'd agree the Chiefs should have done, what does ChiefsPlanet say Pioli should have done with the QB position? Clearly Sanchez is NOT an answer either, so Pioli made the right move in not spending a high 1st round pick on him. I'm also not aware of any Drew Brees to Miami level screw ups in terms of QB options that were ignored.

So what realistic move should Pioli have made, but didn't, at the QB position that pisses everybody off so much?

Heck, someone on here (GoChiefs) had a link on a post I saw explaining why Pioli should be fired, and the discussion of all the options he had other than Cassel were really pretty pathetic.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:38 PM   #2
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Just a small modicum of dislike. Nothing major.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:39 PM   #3
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I hate you. Oh, and may Gisele rend and torture Tommy anally with the all of the Lombardi's in their home one day. With no lube.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:40 PM   #4
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I hate you. Oh, and may Gisele rend and torture Tommy anally with the all of the Lombardi's in their home one day. With no lube.

I hope there are more than "just" three for him to be rended and tortured by...

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Old 10-09-2012, 04:45 PM   #5
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:39 PM   #6
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I knew Cassel wasn't the answer after the 2009 season.

If you know the QB position, you can watch to see if a QB can read a defense from the LOS, call correct audibles, go through progressions, and avoid a pass rush without going fetal.

He pulled off a few good games in 2010 against shitty teams which caused me to somewhat question his potential,... but then ended the season with another terrible 3 games of the same shit I saw the season before.

He should've been cut at that time.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:42 PM   #7
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I knew Cassel wasn't the answer after the 2009 season.

If you know the QB position, you can watch to see if a QB can read a defense from the LOS, call correct audibles, go through progressions, and avoid a pass rush without going fetal.

He pulled off a few good games in 2010 against shitty teams which caused me to somewhat question his potential,... but then ended the season with another terrible 3 games of the same shit I saw the season before.

He should've been cut at that time.

He should've been CUT after a season where he had 27 TDs and 7 INTs?

Here's another stiff who had 27-7 in his third year that maybe you would've cut:

2002 San Diego 16–16 526–320 3,284 .608 17 16 52 24–180 76.9
2003 San Diego 11–11 356–205 2,108 .576 11 15 68 21–178 67.5
2004 San Diego 15–15 400–262 3,159 .655 27 7 79 18–131 104.8



(Drew Brees)?!
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:43 PM   #8
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He should've been CUT after a season where he had 27 TDs and 7 INTs?
If you had actually watched the games instead of looking at stats, you wouldn't be asking this question.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:47 PM   #9
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If you had actually watched the games instead of looking at stats, you wouldn't be asking this question.

So you agree? The 27 TD, 7 INT guy should've been cut after his Pro Bowl season?

Wow. I admit I didn't watch the games, but I think that'd be a first in NFL history...
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:50 PM   #10
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So you agree? The 27 TD, 7 INT guy should've been cut after his Pro Bowl season?

Wow. I admit I didn't watch the games, but I think that'd be a first in NFL history...
so, you admit to not knowing what the **** you're talking about...but you're here to lecture us anyways?

have you lived and died with every single snap of Cassel's for 3 and half years?

because if not, spare us your bullshit...
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So you agree? The 27 TD, 7 INT guy should've been cut after his Pro Bowl season?
Jesus Christ, he was an ALTERNATE! PRO BOWLER MY ASS!
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So you agree? The 27 TD, 7 INT guy should've been cut after his Pro Bowl season?

Wow. I admit I didn't watch the games, but I think that'd be a first in NFL history...
Yes, he ****ing sucked ass, threw balls too high, took phantom sacks and completely crumbled in the playoff game.

Add to that fact that Jamaal Charles was off the hook that season AND the fact that they played the lowly NFC West, with the winner of that division ending up with a losing record at 7-9, and you'd clearly see that he needed to be replaced.

The bottom line is that EVERY position should be challenged each and every offseason. Baltimore won the Super Bowl, then cut Trent Dilfer for Elvis Grbac.

In an eleven year time span, San Diego traded for Stan Humphries, drafted Ryan Leaf, drafted Drew Brees and drafted Phillip Rivers, all in an effort to improve the QB situation.

The Chiefs haven't done dick in the draft since 1983.

Oh, and Cassel did and always has sucked ass.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:55 PM   #13
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So you agree? The 27 TD, 7 INT guy should've been cut after his Pro Bowl season?

Wow. I admit I didn't watch the games, but I think that'd be a first in NFL history...

Then stop talking. You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm glad the Pats fan knows more about the Chiefs than we do.
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So you agree? The 27 TD, 7 INT guy should've been cut after his Pro Bowl season?

Wow. I admit I didn't watch the games, but I think that'd be a first in NFL history...
If you go back and read the posts, many of us were hoping he was gone. We were hoping he would be traded to McDaniels in Denver since he actually wanted him also.

Those stats were bullshit, and many of us knew it from watching the games. A real QB, with that schedule and Jamaal Charles would have rewritten record books.
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If you had actually watched the games instead of looking at stats, you wouldn't be asking this question.
Do you forget that this forum has a search feature when you post?
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