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Old 11-07-2012, 10:51 PM  
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:38 AM   #46
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Can we get out of this endless cycle of hiring all these broke dick ****ing NFL retreads from the past 30 years?

These guys are fired/available for hiring for a reason. They are too ****ing old, too set in the past and don't have shit to bring to the table in terms of advancing the state of football to the point of modernization.

Let's bring in some new blood. I am totally sick of these ****ing broke dick halfwits.

GM: Marc Ross
- Current Director of College Scouting for the NY Giants. 39, smart as hell and has proven he's got an eye for talent.

HC: Brian Kelly
- Current HC at Notre Dame who's done wonders with both the Golden Domers and Cincy.

OC: Bobby Petrino, former Arkansas HC
- While I wouldn't want Bobby anywhere near a HC job, the guy can call a kick ass offense than wins and pushes the ball up and down the field.

DC: Dick Bumpus, TCU
- One of the most innovative and successful people on the defensive side of the ball at any level.

There you go. Wasn't that easy?
Ross is the only suggestion here that makes any sense. Kelly isn't going anywhere, Petrino is blackballed in the NFL for quitting on the Falcons and just took the W. KY job, Bumpus? Sure he is a good college defensive mind... but, come on.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:43 AM   #47
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Ross is the only suggestion here that makes any sense. Kelly isn't going anywhere, Petrino is blackballed in the NFL for quitting on the Falcons and just took the W. KY job, Bumpus? Sure he is a good college defensive mind... but, come on.
This is exactly what Sac is talking about in his last post.

People are so caught up in doing things the same way that they've always been done that they can't see what is right in front of them.

With son many NFL teams incorporating so many of the spread and option concepts into their system, a successful college DC is a guy that just might bring the fresh defensive system that most successfully defends these new concepts.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:45 AM   #48
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Ross' draft record is not very good.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:45 AM   #49
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And let's face facts - nobody knew this guy before this past year. One good year at Notre Dame and now he's "the dynasty?"
You mean the guy who took a formerly shitty Cincy team to the Orange Bowl in 2009 and an undefeated Cincy team to the Sugar Bowl in 2010?

Nah, no one watches BCS Bowl games. Never heard of him.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:46 AM   #50
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No. If Kuharich was any good, don't you think he'd have an NFL job right now? He's been out of the NFL since 2009. Something doesn't smell right there...
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:46 AM   #51
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Sadly we can't go back to the past a coach, like Haley is exactly what this team needs with a GM he could work with.
We did it with Gunther.

Oh, I see what you mean.

(Still think Todd will be good somewhere)
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:48 AM   #52
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Charlie Weis won or at least went to a few bcs games at Notre Dame. They have more money than just about every university, top 10 recruiting classes, and an independent schedule. Yes winning at Notre Dame isn't hard to do.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:50 AM   #53
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See? That makes more sense than the Kelly argument.

And even though Kelly doesn't have NFL experience, I don't think that's a negative. The guy can coach football. And the NFL is simply littered with ****ing halfwit retreads that get jobs just because "they've worked in the NFL before" - your exact reasoning why Kelly shouldn't be hired.

Guys like Crennel and Daboll can continue to get high level coaching jobs in the NFL simply because GM's and owners are terrified of going outside the system and can't imagine innovation and modernization. Because most of the owners are old, crusty ****ers who've lived the past 30 years in the NFL. I mean, because of the logic you've given, Brian Daboll continues to have a job in the NFL. That's some seriously ****ed up, dipshit, closeminded logic.
Oh I agree with the part of your take about retreads.

If I'm going the new HC route I'm going with a guy like Mike McCoy who's had success with Quarterbacks and is a disciplinarian. I think him and Ross could be a great pairing.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:50 AM   #54
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You mean the guy who took a formerly shitty Cincy team to the Orange Bowl in 2009 and an undefeated Cincy team to the Sugar Bowl in 2010?

Nah, no one watches BCS Bowl games. Never heard of him.
I've already stated that it was his work with Cincinnati that put me in the "Brian Kelly as a potential Chiefs HC" camp.

I'm saying that most people (and by "most people" I mean most people - the same people who think that Geno Smith is a running quarterback who should be passed over for a OT from a spread system - which, I would argue, is a more difficult transition to make position wise than a QB from a spread type system) probably don't know that he was even the coach at Cincy.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:37 PM   #55
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I've been on the Ross for GM bandwagon for a while.

I don't think there's a chance in hell that Brian Kelley leaves ND.

I'd take David Shaw as an option, and a guy that really intrigues me that no one talks about is Marc Trestman.
I can live with Marc Trestman.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:52 PM   #56
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I'm scared that Ross is Pioli 2.0. Look at the similaries. Would we even know who Ross was if it wasn't for Coughlin and Manning? Just like Pioli wouldn't be anything without Billichick and Brady.
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Would we even know who Ross was if it wasn't for Coughlin and Manning?
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:04 PM   #58
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I want Haley back - get him a GM he can work with and throw $5M/y with a public apology from Chunt.

For GM, Russ Ball, Tom Gamble, or Scott McLohan would be great.

But ideally, Reggie MacKenzie - he's the next Ozzie Newsome, imo.

Flame away, but I think Haley could work with those guys. And no matter what happens, this team has done permanent damage to me as a fan...and the only way to completely fix that is to fire Pioli and bring back Haley.

I know I'll get flamed, but in my heart that's how I really feel.
Russ Ball is 57 years old and has never been a General Manager.

Reggie McKenzie is the GM of the Raiders.

And Todd Haley ****ing sucked as a head coach and even with a talented QB and skill position players in Pittsburgh, has been less than impressive.
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Can we get out of this endless cycle of hiring all these broke dick ****ing NFL retreads from the past 30 years?

These guys are fired/available for hiring for a reason. They are too ****ing old, too set in the past and don't have shit to bring to the table in terms of advancing the state of football to the point of modernization.

Let's bring in some new blood. I am totally sick of these ****ing broke dick halfwits.

GM: Marc Ross
- Current Director of College Scouting for the NY Giants. 39, smart as hell and has proven he's got an eye for talent.

HC: Brian Kelly
- Current HC at Notre Dame who's done wonders with both the Golden Domers and Cincy.

OC: Bobby Petrino, former Arkansas HC
- While I wouldn't want Bobby anywhere near a HC job, the guy can call a kick ass offense than wins and pushes the ball up and down the field.

DC: Dick Bumpus, TCU
- One of the most innovative and successful people on the defensive side of the ball at any level.

There you go. Wasn't that easy?
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Can we get out of this endless cycle of hiring all these broke dick ****ing NFL retreads from the past 30 years?

These guys are fired/available for hiring for a reason. They are too ****ing old, too set in the past and don't have shit to bring to the table in terms of advancing the state of football to the point of modernization.

Let's bring in some new blood. I am totally sick of these ****ing broke dick halfwits.

GM: Marc Ross
- Current Director of College Scouting for the NY Giants. 39, smart as hell and has proven he's got an eye for talent.

HC: Brian Kelly
- Current HC at Notre Dame who's done wonders with both the Golden Domers and Cincy.

OC: Bobby Petrino, former Arkansas HC
- While I wouldn't want Bobby anywhere near a HC job, the guy can call a kick ass offense than wins and pushes the ball up and down the field.

DC: Dick Bumpus, TCU
- One of the most innovative and successful people on the defensive side of the ball at any level.

There you go. Wasn't that easy?
Petrino was hired as HC at W. Kentucky.
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