One Question

47mack · 09-10-2000, 05:53 PM

Why is it that after every game/loss, each thread ends up in a Grbac discussion???????
Just wondering

Play calling was the key ingredient to the loss today. HANDS DOWN!!<BR>

HC_Chief · 09-10-2000, 05:57 PM

I was wondering the same thing. In my 'three words' post, I mentioned Grbac -- but placed absolutely no blame for the past two losses upon him. The Grbackers/bashers picked up on the mentioning of his name instantly... disregarding the rest of the post. Selective criticism I guess... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

47mack · 09-10-2000, 05:59 PM

It makes me laugh, although I do find great info. from both sides.

I wonder which side I lean toward?????

CASHMAN · 09-10-2000, 05:59 PM

and he didnt have any INTs!!!!!!!! if we would of won today everyone would love him, but we lost and they are all over him??????? he is doing what the O-jimmy raye sends down JIMMY should go and get someone who can call some plays and the real ELVIS WILL SHOW UPP!!!!!!

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Chieficus · 09-10-2000, 06:02 PM

I'd say it's going to be a reoccuring nightmare on Chiefs' BBs until he's gone... be it next year or 5 years down the road...

97/98 just locked the whole damn Grbac/Gannon debate into a lot of people's minds and it has just grown and spun off into similar tangents...

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Lightening Crashes... and i am there...

Luzap · 09-10-2000, 06:03 PM

HC_Chief,

I don't know if I'm one of those that did trhat or not...

I am simply extremely upset with Raye and Schottenheimer right now.

I thought all of the players had good games. I think this team is capable of being a champion. I think the players played their hearts out.

And I think that our OC and DC couldn't have done a better job of loosing this game if they tried.

Luz
not sure they didn't; maybe they're getting payed off...

HC_Chief · 09-10-2000, 06:04 PM

Cash - that is one of the problems I have with Elvis -- Jimmy obviously is clueless... he puts the O in bad situations. When Elvis approaches the l.o.s., he should notice the fact that the D is stacked heavily against the run - and CHANGE THE PLAY! Audible a pass once in a while for crissakes! Better yet, call your own plays! The coaching staff is obviously clueless - if Elvis were to take charge, I'd be the biggest Grbacker of them all! I know that might get him in some trouble, but damn... anything is better than this! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Right now, I see him as a servicable QB that gets the job done when everything goes right; when things break down however, he tends to make mistakes.

Luz - I feel your pain brah'! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] The players did play their guts out -- too bad our coaches let them down... again.

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CASHMAN · 09-10-2000, 06:05 PM

It isnt ELVIS its the PLAY CALLING!!!!!!!!!! CAN YOU SAY FIRE JIMMY RAYE-YES I THOUGHT YOU COULD....

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Luzap · 09-10-2000, 06:07 PM

If the Grbac debate is still locked into some people's minds, perhaps they need bigger minds.

Grbac played VERY well today.

Let him throw the ball and win a few games for us!... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/mad.gif[/img]

Luz
elvis doesn't need to be leashed...

HC_Chief · 09-10-2000, 06:11 PM

I [i]still[/i] can't believe we ran three times up Grunny's arse with THREE MINUTES left! I turned to my gf right before the first play of that pathetic series & [b][i]predicted the outcome of the game!!![/i][/b] No s__t! Man, that is sad...

milkman · 09-10-2000, 06:16 PM

The fact that we never see Elvis audible leads me to wonder, does Raye's offense have audible options in it? The QB in the Rams offense under Raye seemed to have the same problem, if my memory serves me.
Elvis played a good game. The receivers played a good game. The defense played outstanding. The coaching sucked arse.

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**BigMeatballDave** · 09-10-2000, 06:16 PM

EG was 13-21 - 61.9%

gh4chiefs · 09-10-2000, 06:20 PM

47,

I think it's because being the QB is a lot like being President. You get the blame when things go wrong and the credit when things go right, regardless of whether you had anything to do with it or not.

I thought Elvis had a hellava game today. Too bad he didn't have someone calling plays who also had a hellava game.

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Gary

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Tomahawk 11 · 09-10-2000, 06:35 PM

47

Everyone has spent the last couple of years with that discussion, why would anyone stop now?<P>

ck_IN · 09-10-2000, 07:00 PM

As for EG ignoring Rayes playcalling consider this analogy:

Your boss is an idiot. He tells you to do idiotic things. You do them. Why? Because he pays you and if you don't he'll replace you with someone else who [b]will[/b] do those idiotic things.

It aint EG. At least not for these first two games. It's squarely the coaches. Including Gun.

09-10-2000, 05:57 PM	#2
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	I was wondering the same thing. In my 'three words' post, I mentioned Grbac -- but placed absolutely no blame for the past two losses upon him. The Grbackers/bashers picked up on the mentioning of his name instantly... disregarding the rest of the post. Selective criticism I guess... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/wink.gif[/img]
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09-10-2000, 05:59 PM	#3
47mack Lonestar Chief Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Sugarland, Texas (Houston) Casino cash: $10004900	It makes me laugh, although I do find great info. from both sides. I wonder which side I lean toward?????
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09-10-2000, 05:59 PM	#4
CASHMAN ERNIE-New CHIEFS FAN!!!!!!! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: OVERLAND PARK KS. Casino cash: $10004900	and he didnt have any INTs!!!!!!!! if we would of won today everyone would love him, but we lost and they are all over him??????? he is doing what the O-jimmy raye sends down JIMMY should go and get someone who can call some plays and the real ELVIS WILL SHOW UPP!!!!!! ------------------ HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!!!
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09-10-2000, 06:02 PM	#5
Chieficus infralapsarianism Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: West MO Casino cash: $2085728	I'd say it's going to be a reoccuring nightmare on Chiefs' BBs until he's gone... be it next year or 5 years down the road... 97/98 just locked the whole damn Grbac/Gannon debate into a lot of people's minds and it has just grown and spun off into similar tangents... ------------------ Lightening Crashes... and i am there...
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09-10-2000, 06:03 PM	#6
Luzap 9.89 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $10004900	HC_Chief, I don't know if I'm one of those that did trhat or not... I am simply extremely upset with Raye and Schottenheimer right now. I thought all of the players had good games. I think this team is capable of being a champion. I think the players played their hearts out. And I think that our OC and DC couldn't have done a better job of loosing this game if they tried. Luz not sure they didn't; maybe they're getting payed off...
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09-10-2000, 05:53 PM
47mack Lonestar Chief Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Sugarland, Texas (Houston) Casino cash: $10004900	Why is it that after every game/loss, each thread ends up in a Grbac discussion??????? Just wondering Play calling was the key ingredient to the loss today. HANDS DOWN!!<BR>
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09-10-2000, 06:04 PM	#7
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	Cash - that is one of the problems I have with Elvis -- Jimmy obviously is clueless... he puts the O in bad situations. When Elvis approaches the l.o.s., he should notice the fact that the D is stacked heavily against the run - and CHANGE THE PLAY! Audible a pass once in a while for crissakes! Better yet, call your own plays! The coaching staff is obviously clueless - if Elvis were to take charge, I'd be the biggest Grbacker of them all! I know that might get him in some trouble, but damn... anything is better than this! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img] Right now, I see him as a servicable QB that gets the job done when everything goes right; when things break down however, he tends to make mistakes. Luz - I feel your pain brah'! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] The players did play their guts out -- too bad our coaches let them down... again. [This message has been edited by HC_Chief (edited 09-10-2000).]
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09-10-2000, 06:05 PM	#8
CASHMAN ERNIE-New CHIEFS FAN!!!!!!! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: OVERLAND PARK KS. Casino cash: $10004900	It isnt ELVIS its the PLAY CALLING!!!!!!!!!! CAN YOU SAY FIRE JIMMY RAYE-YES I THOUGHT YOU COULD.... ------------------ HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!!!
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09-10-2000, 06:07 PM	#9
Luzap 9.89 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $10004900	If the Grbac debate is still locked into some people's minds, perhaps they need bigger minds. Grbac played VERY well today. Let him throw the ball and win a few games for us!... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/mad.gif[/img] Luz elvis doesn't need to be leashed...
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09-10-2000, 06:11 PM	#10
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	I [i]still[/i] can't believe we ran three times up Grunny's arse with THREE MINUTES left! I turned to my gf right before the first play of that pathetic series & [b][i]predicted the outcome of the game!!![/i][/b] No s__t! Man, that is sad...
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09-10-2000, 06:16 PM	#11
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	The fact that we never see Elvis audible leads me to wonder, does Raye's offense have audible options in it? The QB in the Rams offense under Raye seemed to have the same problem, if my memory serves me. Elvis played a good game. The receivers played a good game. The defense played outstanding. The coaching sucked arse. ------------------ [b]Red Eyes[/b] [i]Chinn Up, it ain't nothin' but a thang.</I>
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09-10-2000, 06:16 PM	#12
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	EG was 13-21 - 61.9%
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09-10-2000, 06:20 PM	#13
gh4chiefs Regular Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Jefferson City, MO Casino cash: $2583592	47, I think it's because being the QB is a lot like being President. You get the blame when things go wrong and the credit when things go right, regardless of whether you had anything to do with it or not. I thought Elvis had a hellava game today. Too bad he didn't have someone calling plays who also had a hellava game. ------------------ Gary [This message has been edited by gh4chiefs (edited 09-10-2000).] [This message has been edited by gh4chiefs (edited 09-10-2000).]
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09-10-2000, 06:35 PM	#14
Tomahawk 11 Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: 10-20? Casino cash: $10004900	47 Everyone has spent the last couple of years with that discussion, why would anyone stop now?<P>
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09-10-2000, 07:00 PM	#15
ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	As for EG ignoring Rayes playcalling consider this analogy: Your boss is an idiot. He tells you to do idiotic things. You do them. Why? Because he pays you and if you don't he'll replace you with someone else who [b]will[/b] do those idiotic things. It aint EG. At least not for these first two games. It's squarely the coaches. Including Gun.
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