Chiefs Offense: Quietly Sneaking Up

[KCJohnny]

On Tyler Thigpen:

Chiefs QB Tyler Thigpen is the first KC signal caller to throw at least one TD pass in five straight games since QB Trent Green in 2004. Thigpen has thrown two or more TDs in each of his last three contests. Over his last five starts, Thigpen has thrown 11 TDs and just three INTs. Only Colts QB Peyton Manning has thrown as many TDs over that same span.

On the mounting productivity:

Despite last week’s loss, Kansas City racked up a season-high 462 yards of total offense, the club’s highest total since posting 499 yards vs. Seattle (10/29/06).

According to Mitch Holthus, the Chiefs dressed eighteen (!) rookies for the game vs the Bills. This is a very young, very promising team. The Bills game was one of those derailments you can expect with a squad this young. The previous 4 games the Chiefs boasted a 10:2 takeaway ratio.

Over the past 4 games, the Chiefs offense is averaging 378 yards per game and 24.2 points per game. None of us would dare hope for numbers like that back in September when the team was averaging 12.5 PPG and about 270 YPG.

Chan Gailey has something special going on here. This Chiefs' Offense is quietly improving week by week. Yes, with young teams there will be horrendous days like Sunday vs Buffalo. The Chiefs turned the ball over 5 times without forcing a turnover - totally opposite their performance the rest of the season (Chiefs were +9 in takeaways before the Buffalo game) and are tied for 5th in the NFL with 21 takeaways.

Seeing Thigpen began the season as the #3 QB and we have lost nearly every RB to injury or stupidity over the course of the 2008 season, with no real #2 WR at season's start and a suspect offensive line, I'd say 378 YPG and 24.2 PPG is not a bad place to be right now.

The wins will come.

KCJohnny

[Agent V]

The wins WOULD come, but we have the worst defense in the league.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by chief103182

The wins WOULD come, but we have the worst defense in the league.

True. The loss of Allen was massive. Injuries have decimated our secondary and LB corps. Its very, very, bad. I anticipate some pricey FAs coming on board over the off season to help. The good news is this O is young and showing improvement by leaps and bounds - and we started this year in the pits.

[King_Chief_Fan]

We need a defensive coordinator that Herm will leave alone to do his job.
Hard to say that should be Gunther given what we have seen, but you can't help but think the Herm influence and his insistence of cover who defense is part of the problem.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

We need a defensive coordinator that Herm will leave alone to do his job.
Hard to say that should be Gunther given what we have seen, but you can't help but think the Herm influence and his insistence of cover who defense is part of the problem.

Hopefully he's learning that experienced guys like Chan know what they are doing and he will let Gun run the D the way that the talent on hand supports.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

We need a defensive coordinator.

FYP

[PhillyChiefFan]

1. Orakpo,Tex (or Michael Johnson GT)
2. Spikes, UF

I don't think that Orakpo will be the next JA, but I think he will be a force to be reckoned with. Spikes is a ball hawk, and is fast enough to be a good coverage LB.

Would be nice, because they are two very good players in needed positions. Add a safety in there, and I would love to have Myron Rolle from FSU.

Our problem is pass rush and lack of talent at MLB. If we have THIS offense and a passing attack, and a new aggressive and young DC we could be a very different and good defense. It would be a sight for sore eyes.

[PhillyChiefFan]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

We need a defensive coordinator that Herm will leave alone to do his job.
Hard to say that should be Gunther given what we have seen, but you can't help but think the Herm influence and his insistence of cover who defense is part of the problem.

beat me to it. A new DC is a must if we are going to compete.

Cover/Tampa 2 is outdated IMHO.

[BigChiefFan]

Wow, look at all of those wins, this stellar offense is producing. It only took Herm two and a half years to figure his offense game plans, were/are utter trash.

[CoMoChief]

I was wrong about Thigpen after watching him play against ATL. I'll admit it, I think most of us were.

But he's playing at a level that I am happy with, he's only going to get better. We are finally grooming a QB after all of these years. He's seemed to develope somewhat of a chemistry with top 3 playmakers TonyG, Bowe and Bradley, and occasionally Franklin/Charles.

Right now offense isn't the problem. What I didn't like about the BUF game is that LJ was getting some good runs and we completely went away from the running game. The game was still close in the first half, we still could have ran the ball more.

It's obvious that it really isn't the offense thats the problem. Though we desperately need to look for a rt side of an Oline. I would LOOOOOOVE to see us trade up a lil bit and snag Duke Robinson.......he was a ****in beast in the TTU game. GREAT run blocker, can pass block as well. He could be VERY good right off the bat, kinda like Shields was.

This team sorely needs a pass rushing DE, every game is getting more and more like we got dicked out of the Jared Allen trade. Our pass rush wasn't great with him, despite how well he played individually, we couldnt get sacks from anywhere else. Times running out on Hali. The more I see the guy play the more I get disappointed. He's not Eric Hicks thank god, hes not that bad by any means, but he should be a lot better considering where he was drafted, or better yet that just proves once again the Chiefs are terrible drafters. The guy has been lacking in the pass rush and he's always been a liab in the running game. Him and Dorsey got blown up so many times this season in the running game. This defense needs help......bad. Brian Orakpo here we come!!!!!

Guy is a ****in monster.

[KCJohnny]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

. Our pass rush wasn't great with him, despite how well he played individually, we couldnt get sacks from anywhere else. Times running out on Hali. The more I see the guy play the more I get disappointed. He's not Eric Hicks thank god, hes not that bad by any means, but he should be a lot better considering where he was drafted, or better yet that just proves once again the Chiefs are terrible drafters.

At least Eric Hicks got 14 sacks one year. Its popular to beat up on him but the Chiefs had 54 sacks in 2000 - think about it - 54 - we have 6 all season now.

Eric Hicks would have improved this abysmal pass rush.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

1. Orakpo,Tex (or Michael Johnson GT)
2. Spikes, UF

I don't think that Orakpo will be the next JA, but I think he will be a force to be reckoned with. Spikes is a ball hawk, and is fast enough to be a good coverage LB.

Would be nice, because they are two very good players in needed positions. Add a safety in there, and I would love to have Myron Rolle from FSU.

Our problem is pass rush and lack of talent at MLB. If we have THIS offense and a passing attack, and a new aggressive and young DC we could be a very different and good defense. It would be a sight for sore eyes.

As good as a story Rolle is, he actually kinda sucks.

[BigChiefFan]

The offense is a problem. Have you seen our red zone offense do jack squat? Yea, me either.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

At least Eric Hicks got 14 sacks one year. Its popular to beat up on him but the Chiefs had 54 sacks in 2000 - think about it - 54 - we have 6 all season now.

Eric Hicks would have improved this abysmal pass rush.

One year, BFD........after that Eric Hicks disappeared for about 6 years.

[PhillyChiefFan]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

This defense needs help......bad. Brian Orakpo here we come!!!!!

Guy is a ****in monster.

Yea he is. He would allow Dorsey and Tank AND perhaps Hali play better. Teams would have to respect our pass rush and not double team Dorsey allowing penetration.

Orakpo is downright scary, and he WILL force QB's to make bad decisions.

We are second ONLY to Green Bay in interceptions this season and we have NO pass rush. Imagine if we had Orakpo rushing the end how many int's we would have.