Chiefs Cowboys "covet" free agent CB Brandon Carr - Page 2

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-26-2012, 01:58 PM

According to Pro Football Weekly, the Cowboys "covet" free agent CB Brandon Carr and are expected to "go all in for him" when the market opens.
Carr is a big, physical corner with experience in both man and zone schemes, and he'd be a sizable upgrade on Terence Newman at left cornerback. The Cowboys can release Newman after March 13 and "designate" him a post-June 1 cut, saving over $6 million in cap space. Carr will command a pretty penny, but the secondary was Dallas' most glaring weakness for much of last season. Related: Cowboys
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4893/brandon-carr

milkman · 02-26-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

if he even has a decent season in a media darling market like Dallas under a Rob Ryan defense he will easily make the Pro Bowl and become recognized probably more so than Flowers on the Chiefs

that is sad.

I believe that Flowers has reached his ceiling, while Carr is still ascending.

When it's all said and done, with good coaching Carr will be the better cover corner, and was for the last half of last year.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-26-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

if he even has a decent season in a media darling market like Dallas under a Rob Ryan defense he will easily make the Pro Bowl and become recognized probably more so than Flowers on the Chiefs

that is sad.

IDK carr on hakeem nicks and desean jackson could get ugly for him too.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-26-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I believe that Flowers has reached his ceiling, while Carr is still ascending.

When it's all said and done, with good coaching Carr will be the better cover corner, and was for the last half of last year.

Carr was on the number 1 wr about 15% of the time lets see him on the number 1 100% of the time before we judge.

**BossChief** · 02-26-2012, 02:10 PM

I'm 100% ok with letting a starting corner walk IF we spend his money on Peyton Manning.

Also, Pioli has been working on Re-signing Bowe for a year now.

Remember when the supposed blow up between Hey and Bowe happened and the report was that Bowe went to Pioli and Pioli said to lay off the players he is trying to re-sign...

I wonder if Bowe is waiting to see what hallens at QB, too.

I'm sure he and Tony G had many conversations about quarterbacks and aykff wins/superbowls.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-26-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

You're not tying up $100 million.

You're tying up less than half that in guaranteed money. Flowers got 22 million guaranteed.

Fine. Whatever. I'm over it.

I love Carr, but we aren't winning shit without a real QB anyway.

tk13 · 02-26-2012, 02:12 PM

It stinks but it's the reality of things. No team ever keeps 100% of its guys. I'm sure Carr's agent knew what he'd get in the open market.

The positive is... you don't build teams around CB's. You just don't. A legitimate Super Bowl defense is not built around that position.

ghak99 · 02-26-2012, 02:13 PM

If we're really letting him walk, I hope a bidding war breaks out and Jerry makes him filthy rich.

Marcellus · 02-26-2012, 02:13 PM

Amazing how its always the teams fault if we don't resign somebody even though we haven't let 1 top tier FA leave in years and years.

Dallas is going to over pay Carr and plenty of teams would be willing to give Bowe huge $. We shouldnt pay both of them insane money when we still have other holes to fill.

I dont think Bowe or Carr ever had any intentions of signing an extension and were going to push for FA or the tag the whole time.

But that is Pioli's fault. OK.

milkman · 02-26-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Carr was on the number 1 wr about 15% of the time lets see him on the number 1 100% of the time before we judge.

Not judging.

Just expressing the opinion that the recognition that Carr as a Cowboy would get would be earned.

Cephalic Trauma · 02-26-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KurtCobain

Because we're franshising bowe?
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Overpay Bowe. I don't give a rat's ass. We have a unique opportunity to hold the cards and drive up the price for a very good, proven corner. I'm curious as to what other people think would be reasonable compensation for a guy like that.

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-26-2012, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

It stinks but it's the reality of things. No team ever keeps 100% of its guys. I'm sure Carr's agent knew what he'd get in the open market.

The positive is... you don't build teams around CB's. You just don't. A legitimate Super Bowl defense is not built around that position.

Yep.

My feeling now is Carr is gonna get a sick deal from Dallas.

Time to move on.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 02-26-2012, 02:16 PM

IMO the drop off between carr and routt is very little.

Dallas Chief · 02-26-2012, 02:17 PM

This has been all the buzz on the Dallas sports talk scene since the Cowboys shit the bed at the end of the season. I despise the Cowboys, but I don't blame them for lusting after Carr. Their overpayed overhyped secondary was dreadful last year.

Marcellus · 02-26-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

IMO the drop off between carr and routt is very little.

I agree. I think he is overrated by Chiefs fans because he is a Chief. He is damn good but not great. He and Flowers made a good trandem, being the #1 guy is whole different story.

That being said I want him back but not at $10MM a year.

Cephalic Trauma · 02-26-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

IMO the drop off between carr and routt is very little.

What are the chances Carr becomes Stanford Routt 2.0?

02-26-2012, 01:58 PM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3686009	Cowboys "covet" free agent CB Brandon Carr According to Pro Football Weekly, the Cowboys "covet" free agent CB Brandon Carr and are expected to "go all in for him" when the market opens. Carr is a big, physical corner with experience in both man and zone schemes, and he'd be a sizable upgrade on Terence Newman at left cornerback. The Cowboys can release Newman after March 13 and "designate" him a post-June 1 cut, saving over $6 million in cap space. Carr will command a pretty penny, but the secondary was Dallas' most glaring weakness for much of last season. Related: Cowboys http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4893/brandon-carr
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2022500	It stinks but it's the reality of things. No team ever keeps 100% of its guys. I'm sure Carr's agent knew what he'd get in the open market. The positive is... you don't build teams around CB's. You just don't. A legitimate Super Bowl defense is not built around that position.
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ghak99 MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $1962250	If we're really letting him walk, I hope a bidding war breaks out and Jerry makes him filthy rich.
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Marcellus Diablo Negro Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $3122662	Amazing how its always the teams fault if we don't resign somebody even though we haven't let 1 top tier FA leave in years and years. Dallas is going to over pay Carr and plenty of teams would be willing to give Bowe huge $. We shouldnt pay both of them insane money when we still have other holes to fill. I dont think Bowe or Carr ever had any intentions of signing an extension and were going to push for FA or the tag the whole time. But that is Pioli's fault. OK.
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02-26-2012, 02:16 PM	#27
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3686009	IMO the drop off between carr and routt is very little.
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Dallas Chief Veteran Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Jupiter, FL. Casino cash: $2205273	This has been all the buzz on the Dallas sports talk scene since the Cowboys shit the bed at the end of the season. I despise the Cowboys, but I don't blame them for lusting after Carr. Their overpayed overhyped secondary was dreadful last year.
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