Chiefs I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. - Page 5

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 01:26 PM

Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn.

I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week.

Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards.

Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards.

The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills.

Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily.

The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together.

Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players.

3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down.

3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down.

3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured.

Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD.

That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them.

I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.

Setsuna · 09-03-2012, 04:46 PM

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 04:47 PM

Anybody want me to post the Brady Quinn equivalent?

Hammock Parties · 09-03-2012, 04:49 PM

DO IT

Saccopoo · 09-03-2012, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Now think about this:

Statistically, Brady Quinn has accomplished less in this league than Tyler Thigpen.

Do I need to start a Quinn vs Thiggy poll?

You make me want to gouge out my eyes with jagged spoons. **** you Clay.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 04:52 PM

Brady Quinn

12 games started
1902 yards passing
119 rushing yards 1 td
10 td
9 int

Extrapolated over a full 16 game schedule, that totals to:

2536 yards passing
159 yards rushing
1 td rushing
13 passing tds
12 ints

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 04:54 PM

Thigpen 4407 total yards
Quinn 2695 total yards

Thigpen 32 total touchdowns
Quinn 14 total touchdowns

I never thought it would be that far off...

Saccopoo · 09-03-2012, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

Thigpen 4407 total yards
Quinn 2695 total yards

Thigpen 32 total touchdowns
Quinn 14 total touchdowns

I never thought it would be that far off...

Hypothetical bullshit.

That's like a quantum physicist eating a shit ton of shrooms and then trying to extrapolate the meaning of life from a dried worm he found on his back porch.

**007** · 09-03-2012, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Hypothetical bullshit.

That's like a quantum physicist eating a shit ton of shrooms and then trying to extrapolate the meaning of life from a dried worm he found on his back porch.

crunchy

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Hypothetical bullshit.

That's like a quantum physicist eating a shit ton of shrooms and then trying to extrapolate the meaning of life from a dried worm he found on his back porch.

then just compare their production over a very similar amount of games (Thigpen started 11....Quin started 12)

Thigpens production blows Quinns away either way and its not even close.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 05:03 PM

Thigpen career comp % 54
Quinn career Comp % 52

Thigpen career YPA 6.3
Quinn career YPA 5.4

Should I continue?

CoMoChief · 09-03-2012, 05:09 PM

Cassel is the starter.

No matter how much you bitch, moan and complain, he's our starter til the end of his contract.

Start as many reeruned and pointless threads you want about how QB's xyz are better than Cassel. Not only are you incorrect, but this is also perfect example of how Chiefs fans will pimp up any QB simply because it's someone that's not Cassel, regardless of how bad that QB may be.

Quinn isn't a NFL starter, neither is Tanney, Croyle, Thigpen, Stanzi, or Palko.

There have been posts/threads here saying Tanney is "being held back" or posts implying that we're trying to "sneak him under the radar". This is a guy that got famous because of Youtube.

You can make an argument that Orton is better than Cassel. But is he really THAT much better? I don't think so and I think at the end of the day we're winning just as many games with Orton as we would w/ Cassel. Neither are top 10 franchise Pro Bowl type QB's. Orton didn't want to be here anyways, he'd rather backup Romo in Dallas than to possibly have the chance to start in KC.

Vince Young isn't coming here. Neither is Seneca Wallace.

We're not making a trade for Matt Moore.

People really need to

already. I wish Cassel would be replaced w/ a better option. But so far, a better option hasn't been presented.

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Cassel is the starter.

No matter how much you bitch, moan and complain, he's our starter til the end of his contract.

Start as many reeruned and pointless threads you want about how QB's xyz are better than Cassel. Not only are you incorrect, but this is also perfect example of how Chiefs fans will pimp up any QB simply because it's someone that's not Cassel, regardless of how bad that QB may be.

Quinn isn't a NFL starter, neither is Tanney, Croyle, Thigpen, Stanzi, or Palko.

There have been posts/threads here saying Tanney is "being held back" or posts implying that we're trying to "sneak him under the radar". This is a guy that got famous because of Youtube.

You can make an argument that Orton is better than Cassel. But is he really THAT much better? I don't think so and I think at the end of the day we're winning just as many games with Orton as we would w/ Cassel. Neither are top 10 franchise Pro Bowl type QB's. Orton didn't want to be here anyways, he'd rather backup Romo in Dallas than to possibly have the chance to start in KC.

Vince Young isn't coming here. Neither is Seneca Wallace.

We're not making a trade for Matt Moore.

People really need to

already. I wish Cassel would be replaced w/ a better option. But so far, a better option hasn't been presented.

Go back and watch the first two drives of the game Thursday. You too BossChief. Watch it like you did the Stanzi at Rams game. There is some damn good stuff there, and I have pointed it out. Stuff there that Cassel can not do on a consistant basis. Give Quinn some time with the #1's and watch out. I think he could do more than Orton did. He just needs a few weeks to get comfortable... probably much like Orton did.

**BossChief** · 09-03-2012, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Cassel is the starter.

No matter how much you bitch, moan and complain, he's our starter til the end of his contract.

Start as many reeruned and pointless threads you want about how QB's xyz are better than Cassel. Not only are you incorrect, but this is also perfect example of how Chiefs fans will pimp up any QB simply because it's someone that's not Cassel, regardless of how bad that QB may be.

Quinn isn't a NFL starter, neither is Tanney, Croyle, Thigpen, Stanzi, or Palko.

There have been posts/threads here saying Tanney is "being held back" or posts implying that we're trying to "sneak him under the radar". This is a guy that got famous because of Youtube.

You can make an argument that Orton is better than Cassel. But is he really THAT much better? I don't think so and I think at the end of the day we're winning just as many games with Orton as we would w/ Cassel. Neither are top 10 franchise Pro Bowl type QB's. Orton didn't want to be here anyways, he'd rather backup Romo in Dallas than to possibly have the chance to start in KC.

Vince Young isn't coming here. Neither is Seneca Wallace.

We're not making a trade for Matt Moore.

People really need to

already. I wish Cassel would be replaced w/ a better option. But so far, a better option hasn't been presented.

Are we allowed to talk about the other positions on the football team this site is generated for?

Setsuna · 09-03-2012, 05:19 PM

Quinn will be throwing picks like giving candy out at Halloween. GTFO with this shit already.

Coogs · 09-03-2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

Coming from you? Really? You're not even qualified to judge thread quality in D.C. Coogs is GTG. I don't know if I agree with him here but he's posted a lot more good football takes than bad.

Thank you sir!

We are going at this just like the Vikings did. Build the team first, and it is damn hard to find the QB. A washed up Favre is how they finally went. Got the same result we did with Montana many moons ago.

Quinn has some tools. That was obvious Thursday with the #1's and even with the #2's on that second drive. There was a lot of beauty in both of those.

If we go rookie next year, it is probably 4 more years until Super Bowl time. Maybe 5.

If you go castoff from some othe team... like the Seahawks did with Flynn?

We have tried that eleventy billion times in the past without much avail.

This guy came here because he wanted too. Not for more money. Not because of a trade. Because he wanted too. My gut tells me because he knows he is better than Cassel.

09-03-2012, 01:26 PM
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1634349	I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn. I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week. Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards. Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards. The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills. Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily. The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together. Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players. 3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down. 3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down. 3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured. Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD. That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them. I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1904088	Brady Quinn 12 games started 1902 yards passing 119 rushing yards 1 td 10 td 9 int Extrapolated over a full 16 game schedule, that totals to: 2536 yards passing 159 yards rushing 1 td rushing 13 passing tds 12 ints
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1904088	Thigpen 4407 total yards Quinn 2695 total yards Thigpen 32 total touchdowns Quinn 14 total touchdowns I never thought it would be that far off...
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09-03-2012, 05:09 PM	#71
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	Cassel is the starter. No matter how much you bitch, moan and complain, he's our starter til the end of his contract. Start as many reeruned and pointless threads you want about how QB's xyz are better than Cassel. Not only are you incorrect, but this is also perfect example of how Chiefs fans will pimp up any QB simply because it's someone that's not Cassel, regardless of how bad that QB may be. Quinn isn't a NFL starter, neither is Tanney, Croyle, Thigpen, Stanzi, or Palko. There have been posts/threads here saying Tanney is "being held back" or posts implying that we're trying to "sneak him under the radar". This is a guy that got famous because of Youtube. You can make an argument that Orton is better than Cassel. But is he really THAT much better? I don't think so and I think at the end of the day we're winning just as many games with Orton as we would w/ Cassel. Neither are top 10 franchise Pro Bowl type QB's. Orton didn't want to be here anyways, he'd rather backup Romo in Dallas than to possibly have the chance to start in KC. Vince Young isn't coming here. Neither is Seneca Wallace. We're not making a trade for Matt Moore. People really need to already. I wish Cassel would be replaced w/ a better option. But so far, a better option hasn't been presented. __________________
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