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Old 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM  
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(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository

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Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:06 PM   #91
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What tonight's lineup SHOULD look like:

8 - Lough
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DH - Butler
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:06 PM   #92
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I think I heard this morning the Royals are 0-6 with Getzie leading off.
You heard correctly. What a effing joke this has become.

There was a quote from Ned a day or two ago that said going forward, Lough or Carroll (I think it was him) would be leading off depending on the pitching matchups
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:09 PM   #93
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:10 PM   #94
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IT'S NOT LIKE HE CAN GO TO THE LINEUP TREE
Duncan: So Ned, how about that lineup tonight. 2 hits, 0 runs, 16 K's

Ned: Well Duncan, it's not like there are statistics I can use to tell me that Getz is terrible and what the Lough/Maxwell splits look like. I mean, there's not a statistic tree out there for me to pull information from.

Duncan: Actually there is

Ned: [Glares] I managed in Atlanta and played in the majors. I'm right.
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Outfield should be Gordon, Lough, and Maxwell.
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:11 PM   #96
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You heard correctly. What a effing joke this has become.

There was a quote from Ned a day or two ago that said going forward, Lough or Carroll (I think it was him) would be leading off depending on the pitching matchups
Come on, you've been following this team long enough to know that what Ned Yost and Dayton Moore say on Tuesday is likely to not mean shit by Thursday.

"give Gio a real shot."

"Ride the hot bat"
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:13 PM   #97
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Come on, you've been following this team long enough to know that what Ned Yost and Dayton Moore say on Tuesday is likely to not mean shit by Thursday.

"give Gio a real shot."

"Ride the hot bat"
Oh I know. I just keep believing that one day, Ned or DM will say something that they actually stick to. I know, I'm a glutton for punishment
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Old 08-15-2013, 02:14 PM   #98
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Outfield should be Gordon, Lough, and Maxwell.
Dyson is batting .297 against RHP. I'd be playing him over Maxwell with Sanchez on the mound. I have all lefties in the OF tonight.

Gordon, Dyson, and Lough.

Gordon and Lough can hit both LHP and RHP. Dyson and Maxwell should be the platoon guys.
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Come on, you've been following this team long enough to know that what Ned Yost and Dayton Moore say on Tuesday is likely to not mean shit by Thursday.

"give Gio a real shot."

"Ride the hot bat"
The last thing is especially hilarious, since Getz was the "hot bat" in Omaha. But of course, Colon actually has been hotter in AAA. But, see, he doesn't have that proven track record of success in the bigs that Getzie does, so we know Colon's hot streak is fake, while we knew Getzie's was real.
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Duncan: So Ned, how about that lineup tonight. 2 hits, 0 runs, 16 K's

Ned: Well Duncan, it's not like there are statistics I can use to tell me that Getz is terrible and what the Lough/Maxwell splits look like. I mean, there's not a statistic tree out there for me to pull information from.

Duncan: Actually there is

Ned: [Glares] I managed in Atlanta and played in the majors. I'm right.
I wouldn't be that kind.

Duncan: So, Ned. Why did you go with Dyson and Maxwell in CF and RF tonight rather than Dyson and David Lough?

Ned: WEll, Loughie has been cooling off and we need to get Maxwell's slug in the lineup...

Duncan: Well, if you're concerned about slug in the lineup, why start Dyson over David Lough? And if you're dead set on getting Dyson in the lineup, don't you realize that Lough is MUCH more effective against RHP than Maxwell?

Ned: I had a feeling Maxie would do something. He's swung a big stick against RHP this year...

Duncan: Nice that you have a feeling. I have conclusive (and damning, actually) statistical evidence that shows your feeling is likely wrong (and it's only luck if it turns out right). Now, moving on... Chris Getz is leading off.

Ned: YEah, Getzie has really been getting on base at a high clip of late, and we need guys on for Hosmer and BIlly and Alex.

Duncan: You mean in the three games since he came back? What about the DOZENS of other games in which he has an OPS lower than .600?

Ned: Well, he got on base 3 times last night...

Duncan: Stop it, Ned. Jeff Francoeur would have walked 3 times against Jacob Turner in that game. Getz saw 0 (that's none, zip, zilch) strikes in those 3 at-bats. Let's not act like he battled for em. They were handed to him.

Ned: Well, I only know what I know...

Duncan: And that's too f***ing little. Go lead your guys in bunt drills and waste more opportunities this season.
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Duncan: So, Ned. Why did you go with Dyson and Maxwell in CF and RF tonight rather than Dyson and David Lough?

Ned: WEll, Loughie has been cooling off and we need to get Maxwell's slug in the lineup...

Duncan: Well, if you're concerned about slug in the lineup, why start Dyson over David Lough? And if you're dead set on getting Dyson in the lineup, don't you realize that Lough is MUCH more effective against RHP than Maxwell?

Ned: I had a feeling Maxie would do something. He's swung a big stick against RHP this year...

Duncan: Nice that you have a feeling. I have conclusive (and damning, actually) statistical evidence that shows your feeling is likely wrong (and it's only luck if it turns out right). Now, moving on... Chris Getz is leading off.

Ned: YEah, Getzie has really been getting on base at a high clip of late, and we need guys on for Hosmer and BIlly and Alex.

Duncan: You mean in the three games since he came back? What about the DOZENS of other games in which he has an OPS lower than .600?

Ned: Well, he got on base 3 times last night...

Duncan: Stop it, Ned. Jeff Francoeur would have walked 3 times against Jacob Turner in that game. Getz saw 0 (that's none, zip, zilch) strikes in those 3 at-bats. Let's not act like he battled for em. They were handed to him.

Ned: Well, I only know what I know...

Duncan: And that's too f***ing little. Go lead your guys in bunt drills and waste more opportunities this season.
That's pretty harsh. Harsh, but pretty much how we all feel.
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