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****OFFICIAL Walterfootball.com Mock Draft Thread****

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17. Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri

The Chiefs currently aren't getting any pressure on the quarterback. That's obviously because Justin Houston is out, but Dee Ford, starting in his place, has done nothing. Tamba Hali doesn't have much longer remaining as a pro, so the Chiefs will need to find a suitable replacement for him.


49. Anthony Walker, ILB, Northwestern

The Chiefs could spend a second-day selection on an inside linebacker, given that Derrick Johnson is nearing retirement.
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Old 04-11-2017, 08:24 PM   #226
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Dorsey is absolutely a measurables coupled with production guy.

No way they had their eye on Treadwell and wanted to move up for him.

I'll forever think they wanted to move up for Lynch and Denver jumped them.
Disagree. Treadwell was slower than Conley, but had good size, good hands and ran similar route trees to Conley in college. Treadwell disappointed last year, but you cannot say he was not dominant in college.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:35 PM   #227
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I could. They tried moving up for Treadwell last year according to reports. But nobody is drafting Zay Jones in the 1st. Davis, Williams, Ross and McCaffrey (he is a receiver imo) go round 1.

Maclin is due a lot of money next year. Too much....

If Williams or Davis slide, I would expect Dorsey to grab one of them.
I put zero stock into those "rumors." Treadwell doesn't and never will fit the type of receiver Andy Reid has employed sans maybe, and that's a huge stretch even then, Terrell Owens.
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I put zero stock into those "rumors." Treadwell doesn't and never will fit the type of receiver Andy Reid has employed sans maybe, and that's a huge stretch even then, Terrell Owens.
That is a huge stretch. TO had already proved he was a baller before Andy grabbed him. I doubt Treadwell was ever in the picture.
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Walterfootball.com has their Reader Mock Draft every year and it's going on right now. The Texans are on the clock and it's looking like Mahomes is going to be voted as their pick. Considering the Seahawks are the next team on the clock....it's looking like our choice will come down to Kizer or Watson for the QB position. If you want to go vote when we're on the clock.....feel free to. I believe he opens it up for 24 hours.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2017reader_1.php

Or go pump up the votes for Watson. He's about 20 behind Mahomes right now.
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Old 04-12-2017, 12:59 PM   #230
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Zach Cunningham, LB, Vanderbilt: He was a tackling machine in the SEC and they have a major need at inside linebacker. He would be a nice fit.
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Old 04-12-2017, 01:03 PM   #231
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Walterfootball.com has their Reader Mock Draft every year and it's going on right now. The Texans are on the clock and it's looking like Mahomes is going to be voted as their pick. Considering the Seahawks are the next team on the clock....it's looking like our choice will come down to Kizer or Watson for the QB position. If you want to go vote when we're on the clock.....feel free to. I believe he opens it up for 24 hours.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2017reader_1.php

Or go pump up the votes for Watson. He's about 20 behind Mahomes right now.
I'd actually be pretty happy with Watson. It was pretty interesting to hear Gruden go through Watson's interceptions with him on Gruden's football camp. Showed him, and told him, how he could have easily cleaned up 6 or 7 of them. It was really interesting. If you don't want to watch it, communication between Watson and his O-line and Watson and his receivers was the key to most of the interceptions.

In fact, Gruden said once Watson and his professional teammates could communicate on the same page (getting the play and the audible play called and remembering it), he has all the tools to make be successful. BTW, Watson majored in communication in college. Completed his degree in 3 years.

Watson is my #1 guy right now.
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McShay did a three round mock today and had no QB's in the first round. He did have Trubisky and Watson going 1 and 2 in the second round though.

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Round 1 (27): Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU

Round 2 (59): Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee

Round 3 (91): Davis Webb, QB, Cal

Round 3 (104): Blair Brown, ILB, Ohio

The Chiefs lack a true No. 2 corner to play opposite of Marcus Peters. With 47 college starts, many of which came against quality competition, White has the requisite experience to make a smoother transition to the NFL than most rookie cornerbacks. Kamara's tape as a pass-catcher is impressive, and he runs with great determination and physicality. Webb has a lot of room to grow, but he's worth a dice roll in the third round for a team with no established backup QB. ILB Derrick Johnson turns 35 next season and comes off his second torn Achilles. Brown is a steady tackler who has a chance to develop quickly into a starter.
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McShay did a three round mock today and had no QB's in the first round. He did have Trubisky and Watson going 1 and 2 in the second round though.



https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/c...s_new_gm_mock/
I actually like that draft. It has good impact in the first two picks. Webb has been working with Zorn so he should be familiar with the WCO concepts and Brown's tape is pretty impressive.
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Old 04-12-2017, 04:56 PM   #234
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Meh to Cunningham and White feel like you could get guys just as good in the 2nd maybe 3rd round. If that's the case I'd go QB round 1.
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:28 AM   #235
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27. Kansas City Chiefs — Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech: He's become quite the hot prospect over the last few months. In some ways, Mahomes — a strong-armed gunslinger — may be the antithesis of K.C. incumbent Alex Smith, 32. Yet that may also be exactly what the Chiefs need if they're ever to make significant noise in the playoffs. Coach Andy Reid, who was once charged with taming a young Brett Favre, has experience tutoring undisciplined passers. Mahomes will need time, which dovetails with Smith's contract, which expires after the 2018 season — if Kansas City doesn't opt out first.
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This is the portion that moistened me.

Now, can we all agree that if Smith were to be renewed, that the excuse of "there just wasn't any other option" is a reply that only a brain-dead moron would dare use in debate/conversation?

I thought so.

Let us move on from this horrible blight of San Francisco/Utah bundle of sticksry, and in to the shining light of 1st/2nd Round Prospect Glory!
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Eww at Douglas in round 2
He's got Basham going a few picks after the Douglas pick. I think Basham can become another Hali.
1. Mahomes
2. Basham

Profit.
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Walterfootball.com has their Reader Mock Draft every year and it's going on right now. The Texans are on the clock and it's looking like Mahomes is going to be voted as their pick. Considering the Seahawks are the next team on the clock....it's looking like our choice will come down to Kizer or Watson for the QB position. If you want to go vote when we're on the clock.....feel free to. I believe he opens it up for 24 hours.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2017reader_1.php

Or go pump up the votes for Watson. He's about 20 behind Mahomes right now.
We drafted Watson.

Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson
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Deshaun Watson: 37.1%
Gareon Conley: 14.6%
Jarrad Davis: 12.9%
DeShone Kizer: 11.8%
T.J. Watt: 6.2%
Jabrill Peppers: 5.1%
Charles Harris: 4.5%
Adoree Jackson: 3.9%
Kevin King: 2.8%
Obi Melifonwu: 1.1%
Total votes: 179

Jeff D: Once again, we get the annual argument that teams need to start grooming their heir apparent QBs to one day take over for their long-entrenched, successful, but aging starters. Pop quiz: Without looking it up, how many teams over the past 10 years have spent a first round pick on an heir apparent to a long-entrenched starter? If you guessed anything other than 0, you guessed too high. Even stretching it to the second round, there have only been two example of this over the past five years, and that was Jimmy Garrapolo, who will likely spend his whole rookie contract on the bench (though could fetch a good price in a trade), and Brock Osweiler. Even the two of them were taken with some of the last few picks of round 2 by teams who were clear Superbowl contenders with loaded rosters. Yes, Kevin Kolb was picked by Andy Reid in the 2nd round six years ago with McNabb still around, but overall, we're not talking about a strategy that has worked out well for the teams involved. GMs support this idea in a vacuum - making sure there is continuity at the league's most valuable position and all that, but in practice, considering the current CBA, it's just been way too difficult to use your first foray into the current year's talent pool on a guy who is probably going to be sitting on the bench for the next 2+ years. This league runs on affordable talent on rookie contracts, and when you're in your window of success, it's just too tempting to try to add an additional cheap asset to help you now, even at the expense of your best long-term interests. I went with Conley.

HurricaneDitka: At this point, if Conley falls this far in the draft I believe someone will trade up to get him. Since we aren't doing trades, I think this comes down to Conley vs Davis, and the value of non-elite ILBs has plummeted in the last decade. I don't see Davis as more than a top half ILB in the NFL, while I see potential for the combination of Peters and Conley to become one of the top 5 best CB duos in the entire league. To me it's a no-brainer, but this is Andy Reid, so honestly who knows. I can't see Andy taking a QB this early, the Chiefs are still a yearly contender, and I think they go with someone who can help them immediately. That, plus the fact that I personally have Watson and Kizer as 2nd day picks, due to Watson's low ceiling and Kizer's low floor.

Thomas T: This offseason there have been numerous reports out of KC that managent feels that this team can only go as far as Alex Smith can take them, which has not been far. Here they act on their beliefs and take a proven winner in Deshaun Watson. Don't expect him to compete in camp, but if the cards fall right we could have a Prescott-Romo like takeover mid season. I opted for the QB over position players because it looks like the AFC is wide open excluding the patriots and KC feels their window defensively is closing with Justin Houston and Tamba Hali aging.

Nick T: If I know Andy Reid, I will know that he selected Kevin Kolb in the 2nd round when he was with the Eagles, when he already had Donovan McNabb. On the other hand, Kolb never did anything in the NFL, and it is very possible this was a one time incident, never to be repeated unless absolutely necessary. As of right now, depth at Inside linebacker and edge rusher are among their bigger needs, so there are about a half-dozen players I see going here, and none of them are QBs. He'll, I could see KC reaching for a guard before taking a QB. Not saying it isn't an option, but still. Anyways, I think the player they'll take is Jarrad Davis, a really good inside linebacker that'll be able to take over for Derrick Johnson in a couple of years.

JohnnyFire: I don't think KC can really go too wrong in the first several rounds of this draft. I'll have them grab Gareon Conley, who meets their talent needs and shores up a 1-man show in the CB corps. As for QB, why would KC reach in a class that seems devoid of sure-fire first rounders? Even if I do think players like Watson, Trubisky, Mahomes, and to a lesser extent Kizer and Kaaya would thrive given time, Kansas City has a window in the West that is going to start closing if they pass on primary needs; Alex Smith is still competent enough at the moment at QB, and more than enough to justify not taking a QB in the first frame. Talk to me again in 2018.
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