****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

[Saul Good]

the second thread has been pronounced dead.

[RustShack]

The Big12 has a bunch of good teams that beat on each other and look bad because someone has to lose. All the other conferences has more than just Kansas to pad their wins with, and and extra non con game on top of that.

There is a reason why most of the Big12 was near the top in schedule strength.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

It's 610 so whoever said that will be replaced in that time slot in a few months anyway.

They weren't bagging on the SEC, and they are far from the only ones to say the exact same thing. It just doesn't make sense to me.

SEC country has way more NFL teams than the Big 12. Same is true for MLB, NBA, NHL, and NASCAR.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by RustShack

The Big12 has a bunch of good teams that beat on each other and look bad because someone has to lose. All the other conferences has more than just Kansas to pad their wins with, and and extra non con game on top of that.

There is a reason why most of the Big12 was near the top in schedule strength.

They have a bunch of mediocre/good teams, one terrible team, and no great teams. The ACC puts more players in the NFL than the Big 12.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

So I was listening to 610 a few minutes ago, and they brought up the same point that I have heard many others make...but I don't understand. They say that SEC fans are so passionate about college football because there aren't as many pro teams in that part of the country.

The SEC has NFL teams in 6 of the states in which a member institution resides. There are 10 NFL teams in these states.

The Big 12 has one such state and a total of 2 NFL teams.

Am I missing something?

Kansas City is considered a Big 12 city as most of the local professional teams have affiliations with the University of Kansas and the Big 12 hosts competitions in the city (the Big 12 Basketball Tournament).

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

They say that SEC fans are so passionate about college football because there aren't as many pro teams in that part of the country.

They're passionate about football because their basketball has been so gawd awful throughout history.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ef=sports&_r=0

[Bambi]

Seems Les Miles is getting fed up with only a few schools running everything in the SEC. But I thought everything was equal in the SEC??

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ing-complaints

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

They're passionate about football because their basketball has been so gawd awful throughout history.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ef=sports&_r=0

Not sure why you keep posting this four year old graphic. The Big 12 has 1 national title in basketball, the least of any major conference since it was formed.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Seems Les Miles is getting fed up with only a few schools running everything in the SEC. But I thought everything was equal in the SEC??

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ing-complaints

Where does he mention that a few schools run things? LSU would be considered a "have". So would Florida. Of course, LSU is free to leave. It's not like the Big 12 (expensive to leave, but worth the price).

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Where does he mention that a few schools run things? LSU would be considered a "have". So would Florida. Of course, LSU is free to leave. It's not like the Big 12 (expensive to leave, but worth the price).

No one who ever won left.

I'd run too if I was constantly getting my ass kicked.

Unfortunately for Colorado and Missouri they are simply cellar dwellers in a new league.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Bambi

No one who ever won left.

I'd run too if I was constantly getting my ass kicked.

Unfortunately for Colorado and Missouri they are simply cellar dwellers in a new league.

Don't tell Nebraska that they didn't really win three national titles.

[ChiefsCountry]

Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri won 12 of the 15 North Division titles. Colorado and Nebraska won the last 8 Big 8 championships. Throw in A&M, those schools won 4 Big 12 championships out of 15. Yep they never won anything.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri won 12 of the 15 North Division titles. Colorado and Nebraska won the last 8 Big 8 championships. Throw in A&M, those schools won 4 Big 12 championships out of 15. Yep they never won anything.

Yep. 13 out of the 15 Big 12 title games featured at least one of the four defectors In the conference championship game (including the last 7).


Besides that, though...

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Bambi

Kansas City is considered a Big 12 city as most of the local professional teams have affiliations with the University of Kansas and the Big 12 hosts competitions in the city (the Big 12 Basketball Tournament).

Yeah. I remember being amazed at all the Kansas fans that showed up at Arrowhead to support their team the last time you played there. Must have been several hundred of them...

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Not sure why you keep posting this four year old graphic. The Big 12 has 1 national title in basketball, the least of any major conference since it was formed.

The graphic hasn't changed much at all in the last 4 years given it's a 70 year view. Second, the SEC has been just as dreadful the past 4 years as it always has been. Therefore it's still 110% valid.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Colorado, Nebraska, Missouri won 12 of the 15 North Division titles. Colorado and Nebraska won the last 8 Big 8 championships. Throw in A&M, those schools won 4 Big 12 championships out of 15. Yep they never won anything.

The only 2 football powers in the conference were Texas & OU. And they are still here. Nebraska has dropped off that list and they aren't coming back. Colorado had a few fits here and there over the years but they are in the toilet. We'll see if A&M can build something permanent, they'll likely be the major loss when it's all said.