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Old 03-08-2012, 12:50 PM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 04-02-2012, 05:10 PM   #2536
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:12 PM   #2537
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In your research to discredit the guy you forgot to mention the guy has worked with many police depts, the FBI and even Homeland Security using voice analysis to confirm the identity of Osama bin Laden. Has also been a expert witness on voice analysis in many court cases. Is quite published in the field of voice analysis and looks to have quite a few accomplisments in the field.

I don't know why or how you somehow think voice analysis has no merit if it isn't done by the NSA. Voice analysis is used throughout courts across this country on a daily basis. With expert witnesses like Tom Owens giving testimony.
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Yet standards set by the American Board of Recorded Evidence indicate "there must be at least 10 comparable words between two voice samples to reach a minimal decision criteria." While Zimmerman says more than that many words on his 911 call, the only one heard on the second is a cry for "help."

David Faigman, a professor of law at the University of California-Hastings and an expert on the admissibility of scientific evidence, said courts and the overall scientific community have mixed opinions about the reliability of such "voiceprint" analysis.

"These expert witnesses come out of the woodwork when money is concerned," he said.
and.. "expert" debunked... he may turn out to be correct, but it will be based on a 50/50 chance and not on any confirmable science.
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:13 PM   #2538
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:15 PM   #2539
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They say a picture's worth a thousand words but that's not quite the answer I was looking for. Any articles not written by the NRA?
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They say a picture's worth a thousand words but that's not quite the answer I was looking for. Any articles not written by the NRA?
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Old 04-02-2012, 05:18 PM   #2541
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I wish T would have chosen to just keep going... He would be alive if he did
Same for Zimmerman. Right?
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Same for Zimmerman. Right?
Was Zimmerman wandering through the kid's neighborhood too? I hadn't seen that.
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Same for Zimmerman. Right?
From the police report he did, and was heading back to his car when T jumped him.
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Was Zimmerman wandering through the kid's neighborhood too? I hadn't seen that.
Was Martin committing a crime? I didn't see that either.

Why are we getting back to this? It's pointless. Both made mistakes, many here think only the kid was at fault. I think that's wrong but oh well.
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From the police report he did, and was heading back to his car when T jumped him.
So he didn't follow martin?
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So he didn't follow martin?

I wasn't there, did he?
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Was Martin committing a crime? I didn't see that either.

Why are we getting back to this? It's pointless. Both made mistakes, many here think only the kid was at fault. I think that's wrong but oh well.
The only thing I think is that I'd like to see all the available facts brought to light before any judgement is made.
That, and lynch mob mentality is never good regardless of who is in that mob.
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In looking at Eric Holder, the last thing he was in hot water for was "fast and furious" where he said they government gave away guns. That sounds like the opposite of taking away guns.
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Now the audio experts have been debunked. F the media...

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Yet standards set by the American Board of Recorded Evidence indicate "there must be at least 10 comparable words between two voice samples to reach a minimal decision criteria." While Zimmerman says more than that many words on his 911 call, the only one heard on the second is a cry for "help."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/02/justic...ing/index.html
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