Chiefs Possible Chiefs\Saints trade

C-Mac · 04-25-2008, 09:22 AM

McShay's blog...

DE Chris Long will be the Chiefs' pick if he's available, but should he be off the board Kansas City will want to retreat. swapping first-round picks with New Orleans and bringing [Jamaal]Brown into the fold would be an attractive scenario, as the Chiefs could then opt for another offensive lineman at No. 10 or get a much better value on their preferred defensive end, Derrick Harvey. And don't forget that extra picks beyond the swap of first-rounders would likely be included as well, so this would be a hard deal for Kansas City to turn down.

C-Mac · 04-25-2008, 09:23 AM

Saints dangling Brown, hoping to move up for Dorsey
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10797100/rss

Pete Prisco April 24, 2008
By Pete Prisco
CBSSports.com Senior Writer

The New Orleans Saints are trying hard to move up in Saturday's draft for a shot to draft defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey of LSU, and one of the pieces they are shopping in a trade is left tackle Jammal Brown, according to a league source.

Brown, who has 43 starts in his three seasons in the league, is considered one of the better young tackles in the game, although his play dropped off some in 2007.

Brown went to the Pro Bowl in 2006 as a second-year player and was named to the All-Pro team. The decision to include Brown in trade talks shows the seriousness of the Saints and their want for Dorsey.

To get to Dorsey, the Saints would likely have to work out a deal with the St. Louis Rams to get the second pick. The Rams also like Dorsey, so it might be tough to pry that pick away. The Saints own the 10th pick in the first round, and Dorsey would certainly be gone by then.

The Atlanta Falcons, who own the third pick, are also interested in Dorsey. They could move up to the second spot to make sure the Saints don't jump them to get Dorsey.

Brown was the 13th player taken in the 2006 NFL Draft. He started at right tackle as a rookie, so he can play both.

In 2006, Brown was charged with domestic abuse after his wife dialed 911 and told police her husband had struck here. The charges were later dropped.

eazyb81 · 04-25-2008, 09:25 AM

So Kiper and McShay both are now saying we want Derrick Harvey?

eazyb81 · 04-25-2008, 09:25 AM

Also, I don't see why we're involved in this. Dorsey will not be available at 5.

Mr. Laz · 04-25-2008, 09:26 AM

if the Saints can get Dorsey by moving up to our pick then we should just take Dorsey.

Rooster · 04-25-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

if the Saints can get Dorsey by moving up to our pick then we should just take Dorsey.

Exactly.

eazyb81 · 04-25-2008, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

if the Saints can get Dorsey by moving up to our pick then we should just take Dorsey.

Yep. This makes zero sense.

patteeu · 04-25-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

if the Saints can get Dorsey by moving up to our pick then we should just take Dorsey.

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Originally Posted by Rooster

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

**** the Saints, i'd rather us go after Dorsey

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Yep. This makes zero sense.

I bet that the thinking behind this is that New Orleans, having failed to move up high enough to get Dorsey, would be looking to move up high enough to take Sedrick Ellis.

Sure-Oz · 04-25-2008, 10:47 AM

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I bet that the thinking behind this is that New Orleans, having failed to move up high enough to get Dorsey, would be looking to move up high enough to take Sedrick Ellis.

I heard they covet him as well, id rather have ellis also but if they have that OL and another pick added to #10 that cant be resisted

Simply Red · 04-25-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

if the Saints can get Dorsey by moving up to our pick then we should just take Dorsey.

Dude, you're so `money.` YOU'RE SO MONEY AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT!

Simply Red · 04-25-2008, 02:54 PM

There's nothing wrong with letting the girls know that you're money and that you want to party.

BigChiefFan · 04-25-2008, 09:27 AM

Anyone else think McShay has mutiple personalities? My God, McSchtick, pick a mock and stick with it. It's pretty obvious he doesn't know what the Chiefs are going to do.

Swanman · 04-25-2008, 11:23 AM

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Anyone else think McShay has mutiple personalities? My God, McSchtick, pick a mock and stick with it. It's pretty obvious he doesn't know what the Chiefs are going to do.

It's also pretty clear that he doesn't know his asshole from his elbow. Last night in ESPN's mock when Gholston was taken at #4, McDickHead threw a fit, saying he has Gholston at 15. I would say his analysis is unwatchable, but it does contain a lot of comedic value, so that redeems him a tiny bit.

royr17 · 04-25-2008, 11:30 AM

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It's also pretty clear that he doesn't know his asshole from his elbow. Last night in ESPN's mock when Gholston was taken at #4, McDickHead threw a fit, saying he has Gholston at 15. I would say his analysis is unwatchable, but it does contain a lot of comedic value, so that redeems him a tiny bit.

Have you seen him and Mel Kiper arguing about draft picks ? It's really funny.

Swanman · 04-25-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by royr17

Have you seen him and Mel Kiper arguing about draft picks ? It's really funny.

Yeah, last night after McShay threw his little hissy-fit about Gholston at 4, Mel did everything short of outright calling him a reerun.

04-25-2008, 09:22 AM	Topic Starter
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04-25-2008, 09:23 AM	#2
C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $2393699	Saints dangling Brown, hoping to move up for Dorsey http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10797100/rss Pete Prisco April 24, 2008 By Pete Prisco CBSSports.com Senior Writer The New Orleans Saints are trying hard to move up in Saturday's draft for a shot to draft defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey of LSU, and one of the pieces they are shopping in a trade is left tackle Jammal Brown, according to a league source. Brown, who has 43 starts in his three seasons in the league, is considered one of the better young tackles in the game, although his play dropped off some in 2007. Brown went to the Pro Bowl in 2006 as a second-year player and was named to the All-Pro team. The decision to include Brown in trade talks shows the seriousness of the Saints and their want for Dorsey. To get to Dorsey, the Saints would likely have to work out a deal with the St. Louis Rams to get the second pick. The Rams also like Dorsey, so it might be tough to pry that pick away. The Saints own the 10th pick in the first round, and Dorsey would certainly be gone by then. The Atlanta Falcons, who own the third pick, are also interested in Dorsey. They could move up to the second spot to make sure the Saints don't jump them to get Dorsey. Brown was the 13th player taken in the 2006 NFL Draft. He started at right tackle as a rookie, so he can play both. In 2006, Brown was charged with domestic abuse after his wife dialed 911 and told police her husband had struck here. The charges were later dropped.
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