Chiefs The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll - Page 25

Frankie · 02-08-2013, 01:23 PM

Scenario (hypothetical):

It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either.

There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on:

1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk)

2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut)

3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon)

4- Other (name and explain)

KEEP IN MIND

This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.

Coogs · 02-10-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Yep. All day long.

At the same stage, Smith is a more accurate and accomplished passer than any of these guys.

Not really. I think he's that good or, at least, has that much in terms of potential. I've watched him a ton. He's got all the tools, experience, size, arm strength, work ethic, etc.

As well, you are living in a revisionist, hindsight world a bit.

Eli wasn't the end all be all and really benefitted from the family name more than anything. As well, up until that first Super Bowl/Playoff run, there were the rumors of him being a bust. Rivers hasn't done jack shit. Very accurate college passer (that KU/NCST bowl game was one of the finest college QB performances I've ever seen), but he's a horrible red zone QB and is most likely on the downward slide. SD fans want him gone. Newton was a freak, but a horribly inaccurate passer. Rogers had questions about his accuracy and decision making. Rothlisberger was a smaller school guy who lacked athleticism. Plus he's a stupid raper. Griffin was a third rounder up until the last quarter of his final season where he won the Heisman and hit the combine. And I still don't like his game, especially considering his size. He's not thickly muscled like Vick or huge like Steve Young. When he's sitting on the bench due to injury, all those draft picks given up don't look so good.

NFL has him as the fifth rated player. Chiefs have him as the seventh. And, IMO, there isn't a guy in this draft that has the potential/ceiling Geno does for their respective positions.

Wait until the end of this month after the combine. This is nothing.

Personally, I think Geno being the 1st pick or not is going to come down to the interviews and meetings with coaches and front office people. The mini meltdowns on the sidelines are the only drawback to Geno I can see. He ace's that part of the draft process, and he is the pick.

**RealSNR** · 02-10-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

Every professional QB should be able to make that throw. The WR has to be able to get enough distance to make the catch though.

Key word there is "should"

Probably half the QBs in the NFL can't throw that with any kind of consistency, especially Cassel and Quinn

**Shogun** · 02-10-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

If that's real, I'm gonna poop on a midget

ill post the whole thing.

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**RealSNR** · 02-10-2013, 12:48 PM

Cassel got 4 years of chances, Tamba. What do you not understand about this?

RunKC · 02-10-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

So, who's making this play, the QB or the receiver?:

Same as the guy who made this impressive play.

RunKC · 02-10-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

RunKc is an anyone but Geno fan. He was all about Wilson, then he had a bad senior bowl week or game depending on who you listen too, then he was on Glennon, now it's to Nassib.

Nassib, the Qb for Syracuse, the team that had to take the ball out of his hands more in the second half and make him a game manager to be successful later in the year.

I love Wilson and Nassib. And your second paragraph is a fluke. I've seen absolutely no evidence of it.

**Bowser** · 02-10-2013, 01:06 PM

So it takes a trick play for Nassib to hit a long touchdown pass? WE ARE NOT IMPRESSED.

RunKC · 02-10-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What?

You'd take Smith over Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton and RGIII?

I'm sorry but you're ****ing insane.

A guy that's rated somewhere around the 15-30th best football player in the 2013 draft?

The hyperbole surrounding Smith in this forum has reached an all-time high.

THIS

Pasta Little Brioni · 02-10-2013, 01:08 PM

We have the number one pick, so not a **** is given about that slapdick Nassib.

O.city · 02-10-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

I love Wilson and Nassib. And your second paragraph is a fluke. I've seen absolutely no evidence of it.

Well thats funny because his own coach said that they did that, so I guess?

O.city · 02-10-2013, 01:09 PM

Also, Nassib underthrew that a bit.

BoneKrusher · 02-10-2013, 01:10 PM

went with Luke, a LT is next to QB as most important player on Offense.

O.city · 02-10-2013, 01:10 PM

Its funny, it's like anytime someone on here says something positive about Geno, RunKC's blood boils just a little bit more. He really leads the anyone but geno clan.

**Bowser** · 02-10-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

went with Luke, a LT is next to QB as most important player on Offense.

The problem is we already have one, even if he needs a new contract.

RunKC · 02-10-2013, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Its funny, it's like anytime someone on here says something positive about Geno, RunKC's blood boils just a little bit more. He really leads the anyone but geno clan.

And anytime someone says something bad about Geno you turn into eeyore and say we should just sign Alex Smith because no QB is worth a first.

View Poll Results: If no QB then who?
LT Luke Joekel	40	31.01%
DE Star Lotulelei	30	23.26%
LB Jarvis Jones	19	14.73%
Other (who, why?)	40	31.01%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

02-08-2013, 01:23 PM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll Scenario (hypothetical): It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either. There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on: 1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk) 2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut) 3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon) 4- Other (name and explain) KEEP IN MIND This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.
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02-10-2013, 01:08 PM	#369
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02-10-2013, 01:10 PM	#372
BoneKrusher That's Right Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bluefield, Virginia Casino cash: $9976645	went with Luke, a LT is next to QB as most important player on Offense. __________________ "MaHomes/MaAuto"
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02-10-2013, 01:10 PM	#373
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2804064	Its funny, it's like anytime someone on here says something positive about Geno, RunKC's blood boils just a little bit more. He really leads the anyone but geno clan.
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