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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:31 AM   #9841
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I don't think the SEC's fortunes rest on the retention of any single coach. There's no shortage of coaches in conferences like the Big 12 that would leave their current schools to coach in the SEC and the conference will continue to field a disproportionate share of the best football teams in the country with or without Saban.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:31 AM   #9842
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Yeah, that all makes sense. I have to think that they have talent on their roster even if it doesn't perform for Brown late this season (not sure about QB though), but it's kind of hard to see a scenario where they do bad enough to get Brown fired now. It would be nice if Brown decided to retire on his own, but that's probably wishful thinking.
Brown has a huge buyout. He isn't going anywhere on his own. That isn't to say that that won't buy him out or cut some sort of exit deal, but he would be nuts to leave that kind of coin on the table.

Texas has a ton of money, but hiring a new coach for basketball (buyout for Barnes) and a new coach for football (buyout for Brown plus $10,000,000 for Saban) is a LOT of dough.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:37 AM   #9843
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The SEC was the biggest game in town before Saban was at Bama, and would still be forever afterward.

I could see why Texas might be a bigger job than Alabama. With Bama, you own the best job in college football. In Austin you'd own a whole conference.

I would like to see him go to Texas though. If he stays at Bama and dominates college football for 10 more years, that's not as interesting as seeing if he can have the level of success he's had at a third school. (Or fourth I suppose if you cound MSU)

I don't see what's in it for him, though. If he's making $6 million or whatever and Texas offers him $20 million, ok, I can see it. But... what does he gain if the money isn't significant?

Moving to an easier conference would help him bolster his legacy from the perspective that it would be easier to win national championships from Texas, I suppose I could see that.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:43 AM   #9844
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The SEC was the biggest game in town before Saban was at Bama, and would still be forever afterward.

I could see why Texas might be a bigger job than Alabama. With Bama, you own the best job in college football. In Austin you'd own a whole conference.

I would like to see him go to Texas though. If he stays at Bama and dominates college football for 10 more years, that's not as interesting as seeing if he can have the level of success he's had at a third school. (Or fourth I suppose if you cound MSU)

I don't see what's in it for him, though. If he's making $6 million or whatever and Texas offers him $20 million, ok, I can see it. But... what does he gain if the money isn't significant?

Moving to an easier conference would help him bolster his legacy from the perspective that it would be easier to win national championships from Texas, I suppose I could see that.
If he goes to Texas, it won't be because it's easier to win championships there. It may be easier in five years, but it isn't easier today given the current state of the programs. Saban doesn't look at jobs in terms of 10 year plans. He doesn't stay anywhere that long, and he well be 73 years old by then.

I say it's 60/40 that he stays at Bama.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:45 AM   #9845
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I have long considered Texas & Florida to be jobs 1 & 1a in the country, being able to argue either as the very best.

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I think you have to put Texas ahead simply based on where it's at. Never been to Gainesville and it may be nice, but I can't imagine it holds a candle to Austin.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:49 AM   #9846
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Brown has a huge buyout. He isn't going anywhere on his own. That isn't to say that that won't buy him out or cut some sort of exit deal, but he would be nuts to leave that kind of coin on the table.

Texas has a ton of money, but hiring a new coach for basketball (buyout for Barnes) and a new coach for football (buyout for Brown plus $10,000,000 for Saban) is a LOT of dough.
First, it's a piss in the wind for Texas. They're doing 175M/per in revenue, blowing out the rest of college sports. As Deloss Dodds once said: "People talk about keeping up with the Joneses. We are the Jones."


Second, if you read the AP article on this, they have private donors everywhere that would put up the cash. Tom Hicks spent $250M on A-Rod, he wouldn't care about far less for Saban. A bored Texan with money to burn is a dangerous thing.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:03 AM   #9847
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OU at Baylor (-15) tonight. Sagarin has it at -13.5 so a bit different in Vegas. I can't remember the last time OU was more than a two TD dog in Big 12 play. Good thing Baylor finally "learned their lessons" on how to win.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:04 AM   #9848
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$10,000,000 a year is still a ton of cash. A-Rod was an investment...that went bad. Saban isn't an investment. There is no financial return to the donor.

Still...if the last three Big 12 champions wind up being Oklahoma State, Kansas State, and Baylor...Texas is going to come unglued...so you never know what they might be willing to do. (Plus, there's the tiny matter of aTm running circles around the Longhorns in terms of recent success, exposure, recruiting, etc.)

It's bad enough for Texas to be the second best team in the state behind aTm. Being behind aTm AND Baylor, though? That's nuts. (And they could still finish behind Tech.)
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OU at Baylor (-15) tonight. Sagarin has it at -13.5 so a bit different in Vegas. I can't remember the last time OU was more than a two TD dog in Big 12 play. Good thing Baylor finally "learned their lessons" on how to win.
Certainly, Baylor has entrenched themselves as a national power in college football.
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If Texas wants him, they'll throw a fleet of Brink's trucks at him to get him. I'd be genuinely surprised if Alabama didn't match the offer, though.

The one reason Saban would consider it - ego. The thought of winning three national titles with three different schools might be a draw for a guy with an ego like Saban's.
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Certainly, Baylor has entrenched themselves as a national power in college football.
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I don't think the SEC's fortunes rest on the retention of any single coach. There's no shortage of coaches in conferences like the Big 12 that would leave their current schools to coach in the SEC and the conference will continue to field a disproportionate share of the best football teams in the country with or without Saban.
Of course. Saban may come to the Big 12 and not even be the best coach here in 3 years.
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Speaking of networks, what was up with the KU game the other night? Was it televised? I heard a lot of people bitching about it.
I've never seen a KU Basketball scrimmage live before.

Well, that was until last Tuesday.
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Old 11-07-2013, 11:52 AM   #9854
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I've never seen a KU Basketball scrimmage live before.

Well, that was until last Tuesday.
What was everyone bitching about, then?
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What was everyone bitching about, then?
Locally the games that were previously not available nationwide are now only available on Time Warner in the Kansas City area.

However now all games and thousands of hours of other KU inventory are available nationwide where a majority of KU alumni live (NYC, LA, Dallas, Denver, etc.)

Not sure who you are talking to but who knows.
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