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Old 04-24-2015, 11:16 AM  
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Dorsey-"there are only 10-12 impact players in the draft"
@TerezPaylor: #Chiefs GM John Dorsey says there are 10-12 impact players in this draft.

Looks like a trade down is coming. Can you guess the 12 players?
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:12 PM   #76
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John Dorsey wouldn't know an impact player even if they came up and ****ed him in the face


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I'd like to know his definition of "impact player".
I think he mean "impacted" player.
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:46 PM   #77
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John Dorsey wouldn't know an impact player even if they came up and ****ed him in the face
Funny, I thought Knile Davis was an impact player his rookie season, as was DAT last season.

That Travis Kelce guy can play some footballs, too.
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Old 04-24-2015, 09:05 PM   #78
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There is a shit load of talent to be had Mid 3 through the fourth rd you need to be armed to the teeth, the problem is we will be chasing ILB/TE/FS/CB/S just a all the other teams.

I could see a trade down or a trade up in any rd, or we might just catch a break for once.... if FA is any indication of how crazy the draft might be this year..... Im past ready lets get this shit going

We are way past due for a draft to fall our way
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:21 PM   #79
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You can't be serious. Either that or your definition of "impact" is far different than John Dorsey's or the normal person.

"Impact" doesn't mean "start" from game one nor does it mean contribute. Impact means that the player is special and elevates the rest of the team to a level unattainable without him on the field.

You'll be lucky to get 10-12 of these types in a single draft, and it is almost certain less than half will come from the 1st round.

When I think of "impact" player in the context in which Dorsey said something, I think a player that will come in and make an immediate positive contribution to the team in year one. I think of guys that can make the football team better right away. Yes, I do think there are more than 10 guys that can come in and make this team better right away. Will they make it exceptional or will that be an exceptional player throughout his career? That is unlikely.
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Two events that will never happen in the same year: Chiefs have lots of picks AND deep draft. Chiefs.
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Old 04-25-2015, 03:23 AM   #81
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Old 04-25-2015, 03:24 AM   #82
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Two events that will never happen in the same year: Chiefs have lots of picks AND deep draft. Chiefs.
The Chiefs rarely get a draft that benefits them. We have had what, one in the past 10 years?

Get the first pick of the draft, nobody worth drafting and nobody to trade with. Get 11 picks in a draft and no real impact players to fall to you.

Because Chiefs.
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:42 AM   #83
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I'd like to know his definition of "impact player".
This, absolutely.

Just reading through this thread, you can see 3 or 4 different definitions.
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Old 04-25-2015, 07:44 AM   #84
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You can't be serious. Either that or your definition of "impact" is far different than John Dorsey's or the normal person.

"Impact" doesn't mean "start" from game one nor does it mean contribute. Impact means that the player is special and elevates the rest of the team to a level unattainable without him on the field.
I agree with your definition, while I disagree with your earlier opinion that DAT falls into that category.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:10 AM   #85
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Question...

When Dorsey says there are only 12 impact players in this draft, why does that make some think he's referencing trading down from 18?

I'd think that would indicate he's willing to move up if certain scenarios play out.

Also, I wonder if he views Dorial as one of his "possibles" as why he didn't give a definitive number and instead a range.
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Old 04-25-2015, 10:18 AM   #86
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I don't get the point of evening saying something like that (Jeremiah). There are gong to be later round guys that make an impact. There will be first round guys that bust.
We will trade up for that guy!
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There are gong to be later round guys that make an impact. There will be first round guys that bust.
That's why you draft O-Line. Safe pick.
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I agree with your definition, while I disagree with your earlier opinion that DAT falls into that category.
I don't know man. DAT is already significantly better than Tavon Austin, Cordarelle Patterson and others with similar skill sets that went in the 1st. He's growing into an impact player IMO.
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Question...

When Dorsey says there are only 12 impact players in this draft, why does that make some think he's referencing trading down from 18?

I'd think that would indicate he's willing to move up if certain scenarios play out.

Also, I wonder if he views Dorial as one of his "possibles" as why he didn't give a definitive number and instead a range.
Personally, I think it's predraft chatter that too many people are taking as the word and final testament.
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I don't know man. DAT is already significantly better than Tavon Austin, Cordarelle Patterson and others with similar skill sets that went in the 1st. He's growing into an impact player IMO.
Oh, I agree, he has shown flashes that he can grow into that, but I can not agree that he was that player in his rookie season.
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