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Old 01-31-2012, 02:52 PM  
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****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

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Old 07-01-2012, 05:38 PM   #4036
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I just don't get it. MU has been trying to get into the Big 10 since when? Late 90's? Why is OK for MU to shop themselves to the Big 10/SEC and finally up & leave a conference that they felt was falling apart, yet when OU/UT believe the conference is falling apart and they do the exact same thing it's not OK? Just doesn't make any sense.

I'm really glad MU feels they got into a better, more stable conference. Really, I am. I hope they do well in the SEC. The only aspect of it I hate is the loss of the MU/KU rivalry because it is one of the greatest rivalries in the country. But, outside of that, conference realignment is of little meaning to me. I don't root for a conference, I root for a team. Sure, I like to see the conference as a whole do well, but you'll never hear me chanting "Big 12! Big 12!".....even if it's a KU accomplishment.
Texas is the conference, so they have never worried about its stability, since this begins and ends with them.

The bottom line is that the Big XII was a joke the minute it was constructed because all of the Big XIII teams sold themselves to the economic behemoth of Texas, when this never needed to happen. Ultimately, the Big XII, with all of its original members, will be looked upon as a "what if," and the university presidents have only themselves to blame.
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Old 07-01-2012, 05:40 PM   #4037
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Texas is the conference, so they have never worried about its stability, since this begins and ends with them.

The bottom line is that the Big XII was a joke the minute it was constructed because all of the Big XIII teams sold themselves to the economic behemoth of Texas, when this never needed to happen. Ultimately, the Big XII, with all of its original members, will be looked upon as a "what if," and the university presidents have only themselves to blame.
UT and OU have options. They can go to practically any conference they want. The rest of the Big XII? Not so much.
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Old 07-01-2012, 05:43 PM   #4038
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UT and OU have options. They can go to practically any conference they want. The rest of the Big XII? Not so much.
Pretty much, though OSU complicates things a bit for OU. But without TX, the Big XII is essentially the Big East.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:14 PM   #4039
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It's all about your football program.

OSU's program would be a credit to any conference. They would have options just like OU and UT would.

Otherwise yes you have the Big East.
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Old 07-01-2012, 06:16 PM   #4040
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Missouri was given the choice whether or not to continue competing with KU. They said no. It's pretty much that simple and now neither side could be happier.

Good luck with your journey into the SEC Mizzou.
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We really like that t-shirt, but we aren't going to marry you just to get it back. If we ask for it back again, we still aren't going to marry you, but we're open to the idea of you swinging by and dropping it off whenever. Other than that, we're done here. Can't we just admit what this was?
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:26 PM   #4041
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So you're saying that it's ok for kansas to move forward and do what's best for it yet, Mizzou is the bad guy because they left for a better conference and ignored the whole "We won't play you if you leave us." shtick kansas gave us before we left? please, how do you expect a program of mizzou's caliber to take orders from a shitty school like kansas. It was clearly a ****ing insult and we're not your bitch.

We moved for stability and maximized potential, I'm fine with never playing you guys again however the history of the rivalry will always be faulted on the sour grapes of the kansas administrators and their backing. Mizzou vs. kansas definitely could've make for one of the best if not THE best interconference rivalry in the nation, anything you say otherwise is just butthurtson. We're willing to play, you're hiding behind your shit quote instead of just saying that, "we're scared pussies." gtfo
Sounds good to me.

Kansas has no use for an association with MU. I don't understand why you guys don't get this.

MU decided that the best decision to make moving forward was to not be associated with KU in a conference.

Everyone will be fine moving forward. If you want to call KU names on the way out it's fine with all of us. No one from KU cares. It just makes you look small from what I can tell.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:30 PM   #4042
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WTF?!?! Given the choice? Please explain
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“KU-Missouri is a great rivalry," KU athletic director Sheahon Zenger said in a statement. "The University of Kansas is a great Midwestern school, loyal to our Midwestern conference and to our Midwestern roots.

“The KU-Missouri rivalry belongs in the Big 12 Conference. Should Missouri decide to leave the Big 12, we would wish them well.”
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:36 PM   #4043
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That's already been proven false by the games at Arrowhead.
The fans stayed away on purpose this year to show their contempt for the hiring of Turner Gill and the two years of garbage he put them through.

And you know what? It worked.

Thank God too, many of us were shitting bricks when KU was beating you at halftime.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:41 PM   #4044
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And the $30 million a group in Kansas City gave to upgrade Mizzou's facilities. How much did KU get?
KU's probably still spending all the money the Hall Foundation has given them. I don't think they're too concerned with a $30 million donation. A nice amount no doubt, but would be nothing spectacular when it comes to the history of KU donations.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:42 PM   #4045
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The fans stayed away on purpose this year to show their contempt for the hiring of Turner Gill and the two years of garbage he put them through.

And you know what? It worked.

Thank God too, many of us were shitting bricks when KU was beating you at halftime.
Cause they usually sell out that game or any other football game?
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KU's probably still spending all the money the Hall Foundation has given them. I don't think they're too concerned with a $30 million donation. A nice amount no doubt, but would be nothing spectacular when it comes to the history of KU donations.
The amount is irrelevant. The fact that it came from a group in Kansas City, a town KU swears they own and is loaded with KU alumni while KU got nothing speaks volumes.
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Cause they usually sell out that game or any other football game?
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The amount is irrelevant. The fact that it came from a group in Kansas City, a town KU swears they own and is loaded with KU alumni while KU got nothing speaks volumes.
WHY do you guys continue to respond to this kid?

Quit feeding the trolls.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:47 PM   #4048
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WHY do you guys continue to respond to this kid?

Quit feeding the trolls.
Cause he is so easy to mess with. It is almost a game.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:48 PM   #4049
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Texas is the conference, so they have never worried about its stability, since this begins and ends with them.

The bottom line is that the Big XII was a joke the minute it was constructed because all of the Big XIII teams sold themselves to the economic behemoth of Texas, when this never needed to happen. Ultimately, the Big XII, with all of its original members, will be looked upon as a "what if," and the university presidents have only themselves to blame.
What do you mean "blame themselves"?

I'm not sure you understand what the point of being a college fan is. You want to win titles and maybe see money roll in for recruiting, facilities, etc.

Most of the schools in the Big 12 have all experienced this during the history of the conference. I'm not sure what else you want. Go ask K State Football. They love kicking UT's ass every year when they outspend everyone else by so much. Go ask KU Basketball, they love kicking UT's ass every year when they outspend everyone else by so much. Plus Austin is a great town. I'm sorry you feel so hostile about this whole situation. If leaving the conference makes you feel better than great, we're happy for you.

But we're tired of hearing you day after day harp on UT and how they are the conference and blah blah blah, everyone has heard you. Message received.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:50 PM   #4050
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The amount is irrelevant. The fact that it came from a group in Kansas City, a town KU swears they own and is loaded with KU alumni while KU got nothing speaks volumes.
So someone in Kansas City gave a donation to MU and not to KU and that makes fact that there are not more KU fans in Kansas City than any other school?

That makes no sense man, come on now.
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