Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-29-2013, 06:23 PM   Topic Starter
El Jefe El Jefe is offline
Don't tread on me.
 
El Jefe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Where the peaches grow
Casino cash: $9030572
Home security/defense

Spinoff of the woman getting beaten in her home. That thread got me thinking, and I wondered what everyone had to protect their loved ones/family. I have an ADT security system with motion detectors, I also have two pitbulls, both the wife and I have numerous firearms and have taken firearm training.

That thread really made me more content paying $50 a month for 24/7 monitoring/protection of my family and home.
Posts: 8,540
El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 06:24 PM   #2
Dayze Dayze is offline
Resident Glue Sniffer
 
Dayze's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Casino cash: $5489358
I'd say your good with guns and dogs personally. Our dogs go batshit at the slightest noise.

Edit...not "you" etc. I should've said "one"
__________________
Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial.

RIP & Godspeed:
Saccoppo
Lonewolf Ed
Fire Me Boy
Posts: 37,353
Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dayze is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 06:26 PM   #3
DaFace DaFace is offline
Kind of a mod
 
DaFace's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
Casino cash: $2426899
I'm kind of anti-home-security, personally. I know that's a weird thing to say, but I've always found it irritating that videos like the one you're referencing scare people to death when the fact of the matter is that you're safer in your home today that people have been at pretty much any point in history.

Scary shit happens in the world, but that doesn't mean I'm going to live my life scared.

EDIT: Just for fun, here's a chart I put this together a while back when discussing the Sandy Hook incident with some family members.


Last edited by DaFace; 06-29-2013 at 06:33 PM..
Posts: 51,548
DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 06:35 PM   #4
El Jefe El Jefe is offline
Don't tread on me.
 
El Jefe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Where the peaches grow
Casino cash: $9030572
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace View Post
I'm kind of anti-home-security, personally. I know that's a weird thing to say, but I've always found it irritating that videos like the one you're referencing scare people to death when the fact of the matter is that you're safer in your home today that people have been at pretty much any point in history.

Scary shit happens in the world, but that doesn't mean I'm going to live my life scared.

EDIT: Just for fun, here's a chart I put this together a while back when discussing the Sandy Hook incident with some family members.

I understand that, but $50 bucks a month is worth it IMO. I got the setup and install free.
Posts: 8,540
El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.El Jefe Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 06:44 PM   #5
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace View Post
I'm kind of anti-home-security, personally. I know that's a weird thing to say, but I've always found it irritating that videos like the one you're referencing scare people to death when the fact of the matter is that you're safer in your home today that people have been at pretty much any point in history.

Scary shit happens in the world, but that doesn't mean I'm going to live my life scared.
I think it depends where you live.

We have some close friends that lived in Hancock Park that never used their security system. They have easy street access (unlike the Hills) and one night at 2am, two guys broke into their home. He doesn't own a gun but he grabbed a baseball bat and was hitting them as they were trying to find loot. Their dogs were barking but didn't attack (although the dogs surrounded his wife to protect her). Finally, the attackers left. They were so spooked that they couldn't even live in their home for two months and later sold it. From that point on, I began using my alarm system every night.

In 2009, someone tried to break into my home while we were visiting KC. We're we barely gone 8 hours before the attempt, so they were definitely casing my home. The alarm went off at 4am but by the time the police responded, they were gone.

In 2010, it happened again. Same window, no theft, but attempted break in. In 2011, not only did the alarm go off but my phone box was found wide open, as the burglars were attempting to cut the phone wires, so that ADT and the police would not be notified. It's 12 foot up the side of the house so they had to bring a ladder. I put a heavy duty padlock on the box when we returned to town.

Since then, I added another seven foot gate with spikes on top so they can't access that window and additional gate out back. I've added the ADT Pulse system, which includes a cell phone to call ADT if the phone lines are cut, cameras, along with numerous other safety features (dead bolts, security doors, more external gates, etc.).

The oddest part is that my house is a fort and I have no idea why anyone would want to walk up or down 50 stairs, in the dark, without knowing where they're going. But, I'm not a thief, so I can't possibly understand that mindset.

All I can do is protect my home and belongings the best I can.
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 06:46 PM   #6
DaFace DaFace is offline
Kind of a mod
 
DaFace's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
Casino cash: $2426899
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
I think it depends where you live...
I think that's fair. Some neighborhoods are more prone to issues than others for sure. And you probably have more stuff to steal than the average Joe might as well.
Posts: 51,548
DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 06:48 PM   #7
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace View Post
I think that's fair. Some neighborhoods are more prone to issues than others for sure. And you probably have more stuff to steal than the average Joe might as well.
The strange thing is that our neighborhood was deemed the safest in the USA just a year or two ago (90068). I guess maybe they didn't take into account robbery attempts?
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 06:50 PM   #8
Fairplay Fairplay is offline
A certain set of skills
 
Fairplay's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: texas
Casino cash: $10026683
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
The strange thing is that our neighborhood was deemed the safest in the USA just a year or two ago (90068). I guess maybe they didn't take into account robbery attempts?


Sounds like someone pulled some strings to raise the property values up would be my assessment.
Posts: 25,265
Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 07:55 PM   #9
crispystl crispystl is offline
MVP
 
crispystl's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Casino cash: $2095140
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
The strange thing is that our neighborhood was deemed the safest in the USA just a year or two ago (90068). I guess maybe they didn't take into account robbery attempts?
It was probably Lindsay Lohan all wasted
Posts: 6,571
crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 07:01 PM   #10
Frazod Frazod is offline
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
 
Frazod's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $3525085
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
I think it depends where you live.

We have some close friends that lived in Hancock Park that never used their security system. They have easy street access (unlike the Hills) and one night at 2am, two guys broke into their home. He doesn't own a gun but he grabbed a baseball bat and was hitting them as they were trying to find loot. Their dogs were barking but didn't attack (although the dogs surrounded his wife to protect her). Finally, the attackers left. They were so spooked that they couldn't even live in their home for two months and later sold it. From that point on, I began using my alarm system every night.

In 2009, someone tried to break into my home while we were visiting KC. We're we barely gone 8 hours before the attempt, so they were definitely casing my home. The alarm went off at 4am but by the time the police responded, they were gone.

In 2010, it happened again. Same window, no theft, but attempted break in. In 2011, not only did the alarm go off but my phone box was found wide open, as the burglars were attempting to cut the phone wires, so that ADT and the police would not be notified. It's 12 foot up the side of the house so they had to bring a ladder. I put a heavy duty padlock on the box when we returned to town.

Since then, I added another seven foot gate with spikes on top so they can't access that window and additional gate out back. I've added the ADT Pulse system, which includes a cell phone to call ADT if the phone lines are cut, cameras, along with numerous other safety features (dead bolts, security doors, more external gates, etc.).

The oddest part is that my house is a fort and I have no idea why anyone would want to walk up or down 50 stairs, in the dark, without knowing where they're going. But, I'm not a thief, so I can't possibly understand that mindset.

All I can do is protect my home and belongings the best I can.
Jesus Christ - sounds like somebody's really got a hard-on for your stuff.

You might want to add a shotgun to your home defense plan.
Posts: 119,439
Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 07:07 PM   #11
DaneMcCloud DaneMcCloud is offline
Supporter
 
DaneMcCloud's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Hollywood, CA
Casino cash: $10053648
Quote:
Originally Posted by frazod View Post
Jesus Christ - sounds like somebody's really got a hard-on for your stuff.

You might want to add a shotgun to your home defense plan.
I've thought about it but the good thing is that the attempts have occurred when we've been out of town. The Labs would scare them away because they are LOUD.

I'm not anti-gun in the least but I've never shot or even held a gun. I think I recall telling you that the former head of SWAT (now a SWAT trainer) has offered on numerous occasions to teach me, but life always gets one way.

Someday...
Posts: 88,960
DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaneMcCloud is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2013, 07:58 PM   #12
Frazod Frazod is offline
WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
 
Frazod's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $3525085
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud View Post
I've thought about it but the good thing is that the attempts have occurred when we've been out of town. The Labs would scare them away because they are LOUD.

I'm not anti-gun in the least but I've never shot or even held a gun. I think I recall telling you that the former head of SWAT (now a SWAT trainer) has offered on numerous occasions to teach me, but life always gets one way.

Someday...
Just remember, it's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.

I'd take that guy up on his offer. You can't beat that level of training.
Posts: 119,439
Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.Frazod is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2013, 03:26 PM   #13
Fairplay Fairplay is offline
A certain set of skills
 
Fairplay's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: texas
Casino cash: $10026683
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by frazod View Post
You might want to add a shotgun to your home defense plan.

Reminds me of a youtube video on home defense called Double Barreled Shotgun VS. AR-15 by this guy named hickok45. He has lots of gun videos I'm sure some of you are familiar with this man's work, he is fun to watch.

Check out this video at the 30 second mark, he shoots at a target 10 feet away and missed, lol. But the point is just because you have a shotgun at close range doesn't mean you can't miss.

Long story short in the video the AR-15 wins the contest hands down.


Last edited by Fairplay; 06-30-2013 at 03:33 PM..
Posts: 25,265
Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2013, 03:06 PM   #14
Buehler445 Buehler445 is online now
Supporter
 
Buehler445's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
Casino cash: $2714734
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace View Post
I'm kind of anti-home-security, personally. I know that's a weird thing to say, but I've always found it irritating that videos like the one you're referencing scare people to death when the fact of the matter is that you're safer in your home today that people have been at pretty much any point in history.

Scary shit happens in the world, but that doesn't mean I'm going to live my life scared.

EDIT: Just for fun, here's a chart I put this together a while back when discussing the Sandy Hook incident with some family members.

LOL

Sometimes I think I'm a number monkey nerd, but I've never compiled a chart of 20 years of data to settle a family discussion.

Anyway, DaFace, I don't have a gun in the house, but always intended to. I think in my house I have a pretty significant tactical advantage if I have to defend myself. That being said, if I had my shotgun inside, it'd be pretty tough for anybody to get the best of me in my house as long as I'm there.

I understand your statistical approach. And for the most part, I agree. That's why I haven't made it a priority to get my shotgun inside. Scott is a pretty small town. For the most part, it is pretty safe.

That being said, wife was one of those statistics on your chart when we were in college. She got her apartment broken into while she was staying with me. It sucked bawls. She was freaked out. I was furious. I think I know who did it and it took a LOT of restraint not to kick down the door and start curb stomping ****ers. It was pretty hard on her. To me, it was just stuff. I'm not scared, but she was. What scared me was if she'd have been in there and if she had gotten hurt or raped. That was a pretty significant event in our lives, even though from a dollars perspective, it was virtually nothing.

I can certainly understand people doing whatever they can to avoid being in danger, even if the probability is fairly low.
Posts: 56,445
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2013, 03:42 PM   #15
DaFace DaFace is offline
Kind of a mod
 
DaFace's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Donkey Land
Casino cash: $2426899
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buehler445 View Post
I can certainly understand people doing whatever they can to avoid being in danger, even if the probability is fairly low.
Yeah, but that's where the issue lies as I see it - you're far more likely to shoot someone on accident (or on purpose in some case) than you are to ever actually have to defend yourself. Even in cases where it does happen like did with your wife, a vast majority of burglaries happen when no one is home, so the gun wouldn't have made a difference anyway.

Again, I don't fault people for wanting the sense of security that having a gun around brings, but you're fooling yourself if you think you're substantively safer by having one.
Posts: 51,548
DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.DaFace is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:49 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.