Misc Painting noob, help!

Bump · 08-24-2012, 12:00 PM

Hi everyone! It's bump here and I'm totally sober and getting ready to paint the hoarders house. But I have a problem, I don't know shit about paint!

So far I have a ceiling that is all cracking, peeling, etc. I've spent 5+ hours scraping the paint off, you obviously can't paint over cracked, bubbling paint like that, right? So I still have a lot more prep work to do on this ceiling, there are still a bunch of places where the old paint still needs to be scraped off and this is much more difficult than I expected. I have a power steamer and tried using that to help get the paint off, but I don't know if that's a good idea or not.

Anywho, once I'm done scraping I'm gonna spackle the shit out of it with this joint compound stuff and maybe put some plaster screws and washers on the larger ceiling cracks and sand the hell out of it once it drys.

So now my question comes in, it's plaster and I plan on using some primer + paint that is 100% acrylic. I bought it at home depot.

Like I don't know jack shit about which types of primers to use and what paint you have to use over which type of primer.

I also started painting a closet, I used Kilz water based primer and now I'm confused which type of paint needs to go over that!

any help would be much appreciated!

**RealSNR** · 08-24-2012, 12:08 PM

I would recommend drinking anti-freeze so you don't have to deal with that mess.

Sofa King · 08-24-2012, 12:12 PM

ModSocks · 08-24-2012, 12:13 PM

Just go to Home Depot and pay some Mexicans to do it. They'll knock it out in an hour or two and only charge you twenty bucks.

**HemiEd** · 08-24-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

Hi everyone! It's bump here and I'm totally sober and getting ready to paint the hoarders house. But I have a problem, I don't know shit about paint!

So far I have a ceiling that is all cracking, peeling, etc. I've spent 5+ hours scraping the paint off, you obviously can't paint over cracked, bubbling paint like that, right? So I still have a lot more prep work to do on this ceiling, there are still a bunch of places where the old paint still needs to be scraped off and this is much more difficult than I expected. I have a power steamer and tried using that to help get the paint off, but I don't know if that's a good idea or not.

Anywho, once I'm done scraping I'm gonna spackle the shit out of it with this joint compound stuff and maybe put some plaster screws and washers on the larger ceiling cracks and sand the hell out of it once it drys.

So now my question comes in, it's plaster and I plan on using some primer + paint that is 100% acrylic. I bought it at home depot.

Like I don't know jack shit about which types of primers to use and what paint you have to use over which type of primer.

I also started painting a closet, I used Kilz water based primer and now I'm confused which type of paint needs to go over that!

any help would be much appreciated!

Wow, I am glad that is you doing it and not me. I have had a enough of that kind of stuff.

I am not the expert that some are, but steam is not for paint removal, it is for wallpaper removal. I have horrible memories of the hot water from steam running down my arm onto my back.
You are going to need to sand or scrape/chip that stuff off.

If you used Kilz in the closet, you should be fine with any latex interior paint you pick up at the HD.

Sofa King · 08-24-2012, 12:19 PM

Might i suggest....

vailpass · 08-24-2012, 12:19 PM

Whatever you do don't leave the paint in your truck and let it leak onto the driveway over night. Shit will get real in a hurry.

**Bugeater** · 08-24-2012, 12:51 PM

First off, if the house has plaster and not drywall, the best thing to do would be to purchase a heat gun, let it run until it's good and hot, and lay it on the carpet and leave. **** plaster.

And the other thing, I don't know where the **** Home Depot gets off selling this primer+paint garbage. Primer and paint are two different products that do two different things, and the p+p crap doesn't do either of them well. Don't ever waste your money on that shit again.

**Lumpy** · 08-24-2012, 12:53 PM

Are you going to use a texture on the ceiling? If so, I wouldn't put too much effort into patching/sanding the small imperfections. If you're not going to use a texture, then I would grab a beer, put on some tunes, and kiss your time goodbye.

Also, like HemiEd mentioned, steam should not be used for paint removal. Plus, if the paint is peeling, it could be lead-based paint and that's some scary shit! How old is the house?

IME, KILZ is the best primer on the market. I would suggest going w/ water-based (latex) paint over the primer, (less headache w/ the clean-up). I would also suggest using a satin finish paint in the low-humidity rooms and semi-gloss in high-humidity rooms.

**Bugeater** · 08-24-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumpy

How old is the house?

If it has plaster, it most certainly predates the ban on lead-based paints.

**Lumpy** · 08-24-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

If it has plaster, it most certainly predates the ban on lead-based paints.

That's exactly why I mentioned it. Our house was built in '65 and there was lead-paint used in our garage.

TLO · 08-24-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

**Bugeater** · 08-24-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumpy

That's exactly why I mentioned it. Our house was built in '65 and there was lead-paint used in our garage.

It's really not that big of a deal as long as you leave it alone.

Bump · 08-24-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

First off, if the house has plaster and not drywall, the best thing to do would be to purchase a heat gun, let it run until it's good and hot, and lay it on the carpet and leave. **** plaster.

And the other thing, I don't know where the **** Home Depot gets off selling this primer+paint garbage. Primer and paint are two different products that do two different things, and the p+p crap doesn't do either of them well. Don't ever waste your money on that shit again.

ya you are right about the p + p shit. I immediately regret buying that. Good thing I only bought a little can of it to try it. I can tell it's not gonna work before it even dries.

I gotta find a sherwin williams for something, **** home depot, they didn't have much selection for paint.

**Lumpy** · 08-24-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

It's really not that big of a deal as long as you leave it alone.

In our situation though, it was too much of an eye-sore. Plus, I didn't want to take a chance w/ our son or our pets eating the crap. I just put on a mask, scraped off the big pieces, patched any imperfections, then applied a thick layer of KILZ.

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Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $2265105	Painting noob, help! Hi everyone! It's bump here and I'm totally sober and getting ready to paint the hoarders house. But I have a problem, I don't know shit about paint! So far I have a ceiling that is all cracking, peeling, etc. I've spent 5+ hours scraping the paint off, you obviously can't paint over cracked, bubbling paint like that, right? So I still have a lot more prep work to do on this ceiling, there are still a bunch of places where the old paint still needs to be scraped off and this is much more difficult than I expected. I have a power steamer and tried using that to help get the paint off, but I don't know if that's a good idea or not. Anywho, once I'm done scraping I'm gonna spackle the shit out of it with this joint compound stuff and maybe put some plaster screws and washers on the larger ceiling cracks and sand the hell out of it once it drys. So now my question comes in, it's plaster and I plan on using some primer + paint that is 100% acrylic. I bought it at home depot. Like I don't know jack shit about which types of primers to use and what paint you have to use over which type of primer. I also started painting a closet, I used Kilz water based primer and now I'm confused which type of paint needs to go over that! any help would be much appreciated!
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Bugeater The Maintenance Guy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate Casino cash: $6252680	First off, if the house has plaster and not drywall, the best thing to do would be to purchase a heat gun, let it run until it's good and hot, and lay it on the carpet and leave. ** plaster. And the other thing, I don't know where the ** Home Depot gets off selling this primer+paint garbage. Primer and paint are two different products that do two different things, and the p+p crap doesn't do either of them well. Don't ever waste your money on that shit again.
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