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Old 12-18-2007, 08:31 PM  
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Interesting post from the Coalition
BigRed posted this yesterday but I don't think it received enough attention. Very interesting stuff.

http://www.chiefscoalition.com/Forum...topic=74262&hl

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I spent about 10 minutes on the phone with a couple of front office people who are singing the same tune

Based on what they're telling me, I think the coaching staff and front office folks are in denial about their role in this mess. They, and rightfully so, point to the age factor of certain players as the main culprit. But there doesn't seem to be any blame placed on the coaching staff for the lack of half time adjustments in all the losing games, it's just that they don't have enough top-flight players.

I wanted some objective feedback so after talking with the Chiefs I talked with a defensive coach with the Raiders and a defensive coach from the Steelers, two personal buddies who kindly gave their input for this thread.

They both said what we already know, the Chiefs offense is predictable, easy to read and stays the same from first half to second half. They don't make adjustments.

The Raiders coach was very kind in his verbage but in translation, he says the Chiefs Oline is junk!! He likes Croyle's physical skills but thinks it will take time to see if he's the real deal and the Chiefs should keep him because he should only get better. Overall, they point to both talent and so-so coaching.

Here's what I sense for an off season forecast for the Chiefs based on my conversations, it's nothing that is predicted or that was directly told to me.

1. Retain Carl Peterson... but: I think the possibility looms that the Chiefs will bring in a GM or VP of football operations to mold the rebuilding process with draft picks, free agents and sharpening the scouting department. For some reason, I don't see the Hunt family forcing Peterson out but at the same time, I think Clark is going to force some kind of change, perhaps keeping Peterson as the President of the Chiefs organization.

2. Herm Ewards and Mike Solari are here for the duration, I'm not sure about Gunther Cunningham.

3. Eddie Kennison, John Welbourn, Casey Wiegmann, Jason Dunn, Kris Wilson, Ty Law are gone.

4. It's way too early to really predict how the off season will play out but if the Chiefs get all the new and young pieces they desire in regards to players, it's still going to take another two season before they make the playoffs again. With getting younger, it takes time for those players to mature into the system.
But at least, it's new talent and as fans it should be fun watching them grow into New G Contenders... G stands for generation.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:09 PM   #31
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PARSE PARSE PARSE
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No, FAX...no idea what you're talking abo-PARSE PARSE ERROR ERROR
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:10 PM   #32
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Ummm. Is anyone else getting a strange "parse" error on occasion?

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Old 12-18-2007, 10:12 PM   #33
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I have read several really solid posts from that guy....


But I can't stomoch that site very well. Its like the [/i]Barney[i] of Football message boards.

At least they need to collect personal information about the membership....
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:17 PM   #34
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Thanks for the confirmation, gentlemen. For a moment there, I thought the bad visions were back.

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Old 12-18-2007, 10:20 PM   #35
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Its funny your quoting him when Nick "the eroneous one" Anthan said this:
so we're going to replace Carl with Carl #2?

god forbid we look for someone NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS COMPLETE FAILURE OF A FRANCHISE....

just recycle the same pathetic losers....

Bradway and Pennington?

****ing unreal
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I think Kuharich would make a good general manager. At least he wouldn't be an overbearing egomaniac like Carl. I suspect if Kuharich becomes the GM, Herm will have most of the power in reality.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:31 PM   #37
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I think Kuharich would make a good general manager. At least he wouldn't be an overbearing egomaniac like Carl. I suspect if Kuharich becomes the GM, Herm will have most of the power in reality.
He was great when he traded his whole draft for Ricky Williams.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:42 PM   #38
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I think Kuharich would make a good general manager. At least he wouldn't be an overbearing egomaniac like Carl. I suspect if Kuharich becomes the GM, Herm will have most of the power in reality.
Yeah that is a brillant plan.

If this is what is going to happen then if you want Chief season tickets next year will be the best chance to get premuim seats for cheap
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:43 PM   #39
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Yeah that is a brillant plan.

If this is what is going to happen then if you want Chief season tickets next year will be the best chance to get premuim seats for cheap
I think that's what will happen. It's been the Carl show, now it will be the Herm show. Whether that's good or bad...guess we'll find out.
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I think that's what will happen. It's been the Carl show, now it will be the Herm show. Whether that's good or bad...guess we'll find out.
don't pretend we don't know how that is going to end

15 years waiting for a rebuild, and we're going to rebuild ourselves in the image of Herm Edwards....

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Its funny your quoting him when Nick "the eroneous one" Anthan said this:
He reported $70,000,000.00 dollars? How many years? & can we afford Jared Allen? Are we going to be able to keep JA or not? This is the first report I've heard about how much JA wants. I am worried we won't be able to keep him. I am also worried that JA may not want to play for us anyways. We all want JA to be a Chief for a long time but realistically will we be able too?

Since this is a Nick "the eroneous one" how true can it be? Is he in the ball park figure?
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He reported $70,000,000.00 dollars? How many years? & can we afford Jared Allen? Are we going to be able to keep JA or not? This is the first report I've heard about how much JA wants. I am worried we won't be able to keep him. I am also worried that JA may not want to play for us anyways. We all want JA to be a Chief for a long time but realistically will we be able too?

Since this is a Nick "the eroneous one" how true can it be? Is he in the ball park figure?
Dwight Freeney got 72 million last year.
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I think that's what will happen. It's been the Carl show, now it will be the Herm show. Whether that's good or bad...guess we'll find out.
God I hope you are wrong. If you are I will buy you a 12 pack of beer
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God I hope you are wrong. If you are I will buy you a 12 pack of beer
I won't drink it.

But seriously...like Mizzou said. A new GM from outside the organization will want to hire his own head coach.

If the Chiefs dump Carl, it's because they believe in Herm. They'll promote some Herm lackey to be the "de facto GM," but Herm will be the one running the show. Kuharich isn't going to tell Herm what to do.

Now Herm can bring in his own offensive staff (this whole staff was forced on him by Carl) but will probably keep Gunther.

So the good news...no more Justin Medlock picks.

But the bad news...well, we'll see I guess.
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