Royals (New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository - Page 6

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 08:13 AM

New thread, this time with more burst.

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**RockChalk** · 08-15-2013, 01:54 PM

Getz is leading off tonight's game

#Royals vs RHP Sanchez: Getz 4 Hosmer 3 Butler DH Gordon 7 Perez 2 Maxwell 9 Bonifacio 5 Escobar 6 Dyson 8 Guthrie 1
— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) August 15, 2013

mr. tegu · 08-15-2013, 01:56 PM

I could have sworn Maxwell had awful splits against righties. If they really want him to play then Lough should be in center and leading off.

penbrook · 08-15-2013, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

Getz is leading off tonight's game

#Royals vs RHP Sanchez: Getz 4 Hosmer 3 Butler DH Gordon 7 Perez 2 Maxwell 9 Bonifacio 5 Escobar 6 Dyson 8 Guthrie 1
— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) August 15, 2013

At least Maxwell is playing. Getz since coming back has been above average, he's getting on base.

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I could have sworn Maxwell had awful splits against righties. If they really want him to play then Lough should be in center and leading off.

He does. And you're exactly right.

BigCatDaddy · 08-15-2013, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

Getz is leading off tonight's game

#Royals vs RHP Sanchez: Getz 4 Hosmer 3 Butler DH Gordon 7 Perez 2 Maxwell 9 Bonifacio 5 Escobar 6 Dyson 8 Guthrie 1
— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) August 15, 2013

How are people that get paid work in baseball for a living coming up with this shit?

penbrook · 08-15-2013, 01:58 PM

Ryan Roberts a second baseman for the Rays just got DFA. Don't know much about him.

**RockChalk** · 08-15-2013, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbook

Ryan Roberts a second baseman for the Rays just got DFA. Don't know much about him.

He has a lot of tattoos

Cephalic Trauma · 08-15-2013, 01:59 PM

The Rays designated infielder Ryan Roberts for assignment.

.247/.295/.377 with five homers in 173 plate appearances this season.

Upgrade over Getz (and carroll) and can play 3b. Good glove.

**RockChalk** · 08-15-2013, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephalic Trauma

The Rays designated infielder Ryan Roberts for assignment.

.247/.295/.377 with five homers in 173 plate appearances this season.

Upgrade over Getz (and carroll) and can play 3b. Good glove.

Which means we won't do anything about him.

siberian khatru · 08-15-2013, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

Getz is leading off tonight's game

#Royals vs RHP Sanchez: Getz 4 Hosmer 3 Butler DH Gordon 7 Perez 2 Maxwell 9 Bonifacio 5 Escobar 6 Dyson 8 Guthrie 1
— Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) August 15, 2013

duncan_idaho · 08-15-2013, 02:03 PM

What tonight's lineup SHOULD look like:

8 - Lough
3 - Hosmer
DH - Butler
7 - Gordon
2 - Perez
9 - Maxwell
6 - Escobar
4 - Getz
5 - Bonfacio

**RockChalk** · 08-15-2013, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

What tonight's lineup SHOULD look like:

8 - Lough
3 - Hosmer
DH - Butler
7 - Gordon
2 - Perez
9 - Maxwell
6 - Escobar
4 - Getz
5 - Bonfacio

Did you manage in Atlanta with Bobby Cox? Oh you didn't? I'll set the lineups then, because you don't understand baseball like I do /Ned

siberian khatru · 08-15-2013, 02:05 PM

I think I heard this morning the Royals are 0-6 with Getzie leading off.

DeepSouth · 08-15-2013, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

He does. And you're exactly right.

Getz has been pathetic against RHP this year. Why would you have him lead off. I try to assume MLB managers know more about making up a line up than I do but this is just not logical.

And as far as Maxwell over Lough tonight;

Maxwell's batting .257 vs RHP, .283 vs LHP.
Lough's batting .291 vs RHP, .300 vs LHP.

I just don't get it.

siberian khatru · 08-15-2013, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk

Did you manage in Atlanta with Bobby Cox? Oh you didn't? I'll set the lineups then, because you don't understand baseball like I do /Ned

IT'S NOT LIKE HE CAN GO TO THE LINEUP TREE

08-15-2013, 08:13 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1800308	(New) 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository New thread, this time with more burst. Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?
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08-15-2013, 01:54 PM	#76
RockChalk Dirty Bit Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake of the Woods Casino cash: $3870002	Getz is leading off tonight's game #Royals vs RHP Sanchez: Getz 4 Hosmer 3 Butler DH Gordon 7 Perez 2 Maxwell 9 Bonifacio 5 Escobar 6 Dyson 8 Guthrie 1 — Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) August 15, 2013 __________________
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mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $2021300	I could have sworn Maxwell had awful splits against righties. If they really want him to play then Lough should be in center and leading off.
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penbrook LEGEND! Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10033840	Ryan Roberts a second baseman for the Rays just got DFA. Don't know much about him.
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Cephalic Trauma Permitted Join Date: Jul 2011 Casino cash: $10004900	The Rays designated infielder Ryan Roberts for assignment. .247/.295/.377 with five homers in 173 plate appearances this season. Upgrade over Getz (and carroll) and can play 3b. Good glove.
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duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1800308	What tonight's lineup SHOULD look like: 8 - Lough 3 - Hosmer DH - Butler 7 - Gordon 2 - Perez 9 - Maxwell 6 - Escobar 4 - Getz 5 - Bonfacio __________________ "You gotta love livin', cause dying is a pain in the ass." ---- Sinatra
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siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $2594950	I think I heard this morning the Royals are 0-6 with Getzie leading off.
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