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Old 01-11-2018, 03:37 PM  
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Cleveland Browns and Alex Smith? A closer look -- Terry Pluto

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CLEVELAND, Ohio -- As if the Cleveland Browns needed another reason to go after Alex Smith, consider this from Profootballfocus:

"One of the surprises of the season, Smith became the league's most efficient deep thrower, finishing first in adjusted completion percentage and yards while tying for first with 12 touchdowns.

"After generally ranking near the bottom in deep passing attempts in years past, a more aggressive approach had Smith ranked 11th with 12.3 percent of his attempts going deep this season. All told, it helped to pay off as he posted a career-high PFF grade."

I've always considered Smith a "game manager" style quarterback who also has the ability to run for first downs.

At best, I thought his arm strength was average.

Maybe it's average -- but he's finding ways to get the ball downfield to open receivers.

Of course, the Browns would have to secure some better receivers -- another job for new general manager John Dorsey.

It's common knowledge Dorsey likes the 33-year-old Smith. Trading for the veteran quarterback was one of his first moves after taking over the Kansas City Chiefs in 2013.

The Chiefs season ended Saturday after they blew a 21-3 lead to the Tennessee Titans in the AFC Wild Card game. The Titans came back to win, 22-21.

Had the Chiefs advanced deep into the playoffs, they probably would have been more likely to keep Smith.

Instead, they might turn to Patrick Mahomes. He was picked No. 10 in the 2017 draft ... by Dorsey. That was a month before he was fired as general manager of the Chiefs.

The Chiefs have Smith under contract for 2018 for $17 million. Kansas City also has some salary cap problems, another reason Smith could be traded.

Given the Browns have more than $100 million of salary cap room, that's no barrier for them.

The question would be what type of draft picks the Chiefs would want in return.

And Browns fans know, their favorite team has oodles of picks -- including three in the second round of 2018.

WHY SMITH?

Some things to consider about Smith:

1. He is the anti-DeShone Kizer. In the last three years covering 46 games, he has thrown 20 interceptions. Kizer threw 21 interceptions in 15 games this season.

2. Smith has lost six fumbles in the last four years. Kizer lost six fumbles in 15 games this season.

3. Smith has a 50-26 record in five years with the Chiefs. For his career, he is 88-62-1. Is he great? No. Can he win a lot of regular season games? Absolutely!

4. Besides the money, why would the Chiefs deal Smith? He's had problems in the playoffs. He is 1-4 in the postseason. He's not played that poorly: 65 percent completions, nine TDs compared to two interceptions in five games. But the could not make a real Super Bowl run.

5. Smith has become a victim of rising expectations in Kansas City. The Chiefs were 2-14 the season before he arrived. He helped turn them into a playoff team. But the goal is the Super Bowl, and January has been a cruel month for the Chiefs because of the playoffs.

6. Smith is very durable. He has missed only four games in five years with the Chiefs.

7. Smith would give the Browns an experienced, smart quarterback who is coming off the best season of his 12-year career. The Browns have not had a player like him since they returned in 1999.

8. Turnovers destroyed the Browns in several games last season. Adding Smith would cut them dramatically.

9. Several teams will be after Smith. Possible places for him include Denver, Arizona, the New York Jets and perhaps Jacksonville or Buffalo.

10. The more you look at Smith and how he fits with the Browns, the more attractive he becomes in an orange helmet.
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Old 01-11-2018, 11:35 PM   #91
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Bugsby is right...they could have been a 8 win team if Mariota was their QB. That defense needs a purpose to play. Plus, Josh Gordon didn't come back until the end of the season.

They have an absurd amount of money and draft picks to use these next couple of years. It's pretty much a General Manager's dream.

Veach vs. Dorsey -- If you give Smith to Dorsey and they miraculously win 9 games and tie or beat out the Chiefs in wins imagine how dumb that makes us look.
That's ridiculous that it would make us look dumb. I don't have any expectations mahomes will be winning 14 games next year. The Chiefs will hopefully get a good pick, they'll save $17m, and I would hope invest that in finding good defensive players for a new scheme.

I don't care about winning 9 or 10 or even 14. Alex has shown to have a high floor, but the ceiling is low. I'd rather die shooting for the ceiling than layup and lie down on the floor.
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Old 01-11-2018, 11:36 PM   #92
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Bugsby is right...they could have been a 8 win team if Mariota was their QB. That defense needs a purpose to play. Plus, Josh Gordon didn't come back until the end of the season.

They have an absurd amount of money and draft picks to use these next couple of years. It's pretty much a General Manager's dream.

Veach vs. Dorsey -- If you give Smith to Dorsey and they miraculously win 9 games and tie or beat out the Chiefs in wins imagine how dumb that makes us look.
Bugsby it actually kinda fits him
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:04 AM   #93
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Don't think Cleveland would give a first for him but Jacksonville is the best spot and I think they'd give us their first
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:17 AM   #94
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Don't think Cleveland would give a first for him but Jacksonville is the best spot and I think they'd give us their first


Ian Rapoport on whether the Chiefs will do better than the two seconds they traded for Alex Smith, "I think they might do better this time".



Looking like a 1st round pick for smith would be insane.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:23 AM   #95
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You act as if their roster is dog $hit. Its not.

Joe Thomas - At 33 age could start to factor in however. 3rd over all pick
Kevin Zeitler - Late first round pick. Only 27
J.C. Tretter - 26 - FA center from GB
Joel Bitonio - 26 - 2nd round pick

That's a pretty good line if Thomas sticks around. And with Dorsey in town, why wouldn't he?

They need a running back.

They don't have a WR over the age of 26, plus they have Josh Gordon's rights who is 26. Josh Gordon, Corey Coleman, and Sammie Coates plus David Njoku at TE could be a nice group with a decent QB.

On D you have guys like Jamie Collins, Myles Garrett, Jabrill Peppers, and a bunch of other highly draft young defensive players.

This is not a team in need of a rebuild. It has stockpiled talent. It needs to find direction.
Alex could give them stability for 3 years... spend a top pick on the PENN ST RB and maybe trade down and pick up a few extra with the other Top 5 pick. Use all those picks on talent, let Alex and Barkely lead the offense.

They could do a lot worse...
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:43 AM   #96
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Good article. Just as I suspected everything is Smitty's fault. Hope he burns in hell for all of eternity.
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Alex could give them stability for 3 years... spend a top pick on the PENN ST RB and maybe trade down and pick up a few extra with the other Top 5 pick. Use all those picks on talent, let Alex and Barkely lead the offense.

They could do a lot worse...
Yep, Alex is exactly what a team like Cleveland needs. Every draft pick is a risk, but QBís at the very top of the draft are a huge risk. They need to build a solid roster and get a very good veteran QB like Alex.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:25 AM   #98
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I donít think you guys understand whatís gonna happen with smith in Cleveland. He will be asked to make deep throws on a consistent basis, without Hill. Heíll be asked to make anticipation throws. He will be asked to throw receivers open, which is leading a covered receiver to a spot where heíll be moderately open. Heíll be asked to make tight-window throws. Alex smith will be asked throw more in general, for four quarters. Thatís because the browns are bad and dysfunctional. Smith does not have the ability.
Who cares, as long as he's not in a chiefs uniform next year!
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Good article. Just as I suspected everything is Smitty's fault. Hope he burns in hell for all of eternity.
You've come around nicely....loving the new av.
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And Romo. And Stafford. And Cutler. And Dalton. List goes on.


Defense. Wins. Championships.
Good idea, we need to trade smith for some defensive talent.
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Good article. Just as I suspected everything is Smitty's fault. Hope he burns in hell for all of eternity.


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Good article. Just as I suspected everything is Smitty's fault. Hope he burns in hell for all of eternity.
No doubt. We can only hope that his roommate in hell is a 300 pound gorilla that enjoys sodomy.
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Old 01-13-2018, 04:49 PM   #103
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Alex Smith in a Browns jersey? Reunion with John Dorsey could be a good fit

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/p...at-quarterback

https://dawgpounddaily.com/2018/01/1...ck-alex-smith/

Alex Smith can be the answer at quarterback for the Browns


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