Why people laugh at Creationists

[Dave Lane]

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

[EDIT New video here]

So on with the show:

Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

It is a ONE ON ONE relationship, reread your bible unless catholic.


Acts 7:48-49

King James Version (KJV)

48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,

49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?

Matthew 18:20- any version

[Dallas Chief]

Originally Posted by Aries Walker

Hi, hello everyone. I was wondering if there was room in this thread somewhere between the "I hate God" camp on one side, and "Sinners kneel" on the other. Can I just quietly come in and set up my metaphorical folding chair somewhere in the middle, or are the barbs simply flying back and forth with too much intensity?

I don't hate those that hate God or hate me for loving God. They need compassion, love, and redemption, just as much as I do. Peace.

...yeah I got rocked at church this morning lol

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I can tell just from the still shot that person is very misinformed.

It's not surprising that you chose not to watch the video posted by Dave Lane. It points out the genocides and mass murders of the populations of entire cities that God ordered his followers to commit in the Old Testament. You can't possibly explain or justify the murders. It's much easier to simply keep your head in the sand and ignore them.

So, tell me, is every word of the Bible literally true or not?

I would think that anyone who insists that EVERY WORD OF THE BIBLE IS LITERALLY TRUE would find it disturbing that God would order his followers to commit the atrocities described in the video.

Since I know you'll still refuse to watch the video, how about if you explain this? According to the King James version of the Bible, the Lord commanded Moses to instruct his followers to kill all of the men in Midian, a city they conquered. Then Moses told his followers to kill all of the boys, and to kill all of the women who weren't virgins. He told them that they didn't need to kill the girls who were virgins, since they could take those virgin girls for themselves, presumably to rape over and over.

You can read it for yourself in Numbers 31:1-18.

Originally Posted by the Standard King James Version of the Bible

Numbers Chapter 31

1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
2 Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites: afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people.
3 And Moses spake unto the people, saying, Arm some of yourselves unto the war, and let them go against the Midianites, and avenge the LORD of Midian.
4 Of every tribe a thousand, throughout all the tribes of Israel, shall ye send to the war.
5 So there were delivered out of the thousands of Israel, a thousand of every tribe, twelve thousand armed for war.
6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of every tribe, them and Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest, to the war, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow in his hand.
7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses and they slew all the males.
8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.
9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.
10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.
11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.
12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.
13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.
14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.
15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Please explain this. I'd like to hear your explanation that tells us how mass murder and rape is just fine as long as God commands you to do it.

[BigMeatballDave]

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?

Epicurus

[go bo]

Originally Posted by Dave

Epicurus

i saw him in that gladiator movie...

wasn't he the guy with the trident and net?

[Bump]

Next time I see a bitch wearing pants, Ima set her ass straight. Take those pants off bitch or you going to burn in hell for all of eternity!!!

“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.” This verse -- Deuteronomy 22:5

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Bump

Next time I see a bitch wearing pants, Ima set her ass straight. Take those pants off bitch or you going to burn in hell for all of eternity!!!

“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.” This verse -- Deuteronomy 22:5

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

It's not surprising that you chose not to watch the video posted by Dave Lane. It points out the genocides and mass murders of the populations of entire cities that God ordered his followers to commit in the Old Testament. You can't possibly explain or justify the murders. It's much easier to simply keep your head in the sand and ignore them.

So, tell me, is every word of the Bible literally true or not?

I would think that anyone who insists that EVERY WORD OF THE BIBLE IS LITERALLY TRUE would find it disturbing that God would order his followers to commit the atrocities described in the video.

Since I know you'll still refuse to watch the video, how about if you explain this? According to the King James version of the Bible, the Lord commanded Moses to instruct his followers to kill all of the men in Midian, a city they conquered. Then Moses told his followers to kill all of the boys, and to kill all of the women who weren't virgins. He told them that they didn't need to kill the girls who were virgins, since they could take those virgin girls for themselves, presumably to rape over and over.

You can read it for yourself in Numbers 31:1-18.

Please explain this. I'd like to hear your explanation that tells us how mass murder and rape is just fine as long as God commands you to do it.

To the victor goes the spoils, GOD has a reason. Feel free to question him if you're not satisfied with that.

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Originally Posted by Bump

Next time I see a bitch wearing pants, Ima set her ass straight. Take those pants off bitch or you going to burn in hell for all of eternity!!!

“The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.” This verse -- Deuteronomy 22:5

We have a new Testament if you care to read it.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

We have a new Testament if you care to read it.

I've never quite understood why so many of religious faith try to kind of disregard the Old Testament, and offer up the New Testament instead. I mean I can understand why, with all the murder, genocide, rape, slavery, incest, etc. in the Old Testament. But it's a little disingenuous to claim the Bible to be the literal word of God, and still feel the need to gloss over the bad parts(Old Testament), and instead offer up the better parts(New Testament)...

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

I've never quite understood why so many of religious faith try to kind of disregard the Old Testament, and offer up the New Testament instead. I mean I can understand why, with all the murder, genocide, rape, slavery, incest, etc. in the Old Testament. But it's a little disingenuous to claim the Bible to be the literal word of God, and still feel the need to gloss over the bad parts(Old Testament), and instead offer up the better parts(New Testament)...

Of course, the entire old testament isn't thrown out; only the parts that we really don't like. Some of the other parts are still completely relevant and form the foundation of our beliefs (at least for now).

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

I've never quite understood why so many of religious faith try to kind of disregard the Old Testament, and offer up the New Testament instead. I mean I can understand why, with all the murder, genocide, rape, slavery, incest, etc. in the Old Testament. But it's a little disingenuous to claim the Bible to be the literal word of God, and still feel the need to gloss over the bad parts(Old Testament), and instead offer up the better parts(New Testament)...

ya, i love how naysayers spend half their time talking about how it isn't true or valid, unless it can be used against God and his followers, then it's the Gospel truth and POOF..has validity...talk about disengeuous...it's also sad how most can't comprehend that God works through broken people and people of faith.... Exactly why Christ was ridiculed and ostracized for mingling with those considered less than desirable characters of the day. rape, slavery, etc..it's no wonder they wandered for forty years, and only two men made it into the promised land..and to take that a step further, all those things you mentioned STILL happen to this day in the muslim world, yet not a peep...


...you don't know what you don't know....unless you've put the time into studying the Word, of course it's not going to make total sense...there are much deeper meanings and contexts...most of the OT was written for Jews IN THAT TIME PERIOD. NT for the Jew and Gentile.

[tiptap]

In a time when the life expectancy is around 40 years and 40 years in the wilderness of hard movement all the time. Well we should be surprise that two made it. (Of course that is counting only men. Wives who cares. Certainly not Yahweh. He's gay.)

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by tiptap

In a time when the life expectancy is around 40 years and 40 years in the wilderness of hard movement all the time. Well we should be surprise that two made it. (Of course that is counting only men. Wives who cares. Certainly not Yahweh. He's gay.)

...that's all you've got? pretty shocking, actually.

Moses lived to 120, Joshua 110, Caleb was 78 when he entered the Promised Land..back then, when they refer to a man, it meant his wife, his children and livestock.

[tiptap]

Actually what I got is that Yahweh was all about killing babies and women. They were property. Can you tell me, and if you can't then I don't believe you read all of the Bible, just how many times has Yahweh commanded, HE commanded that women and children be killed and virgins given to be used sexually by the conquering Yahweh affirmed MEN. Gay, Gay Gay.