Chiefs Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck. - Page 441

**Mav** · 10-14-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

You gotta admit though. That one deep pass down the sideline was an absolute DIME.

which one? both the left to the sideline, and the right one for the td, those were evil passes. I mean absolute dimes.

NinerDoug · 10-14-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Shrugs. And people get wrapped up in that like me stating the obvious about one game like he cant change, or get better. I am reactionary just like the rest of the world, and im not afraid to admit when someone plays BADLY.

I guess im making alexcuses, in reverse now.

I can't imagine anyone saying anything different. He looked terrible. Even Alex said as much.

I would expect his overall performance this season to look much, much better.

9er guy · 10-14-2013, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

agreed. If Vernon is going to start being like this regularly, well, he was open like this in the RAMS game too, so if Kaep is going to find him like that, gonna open up the entire offense.

Good to see that Kaep is realizing that Vernon is ALWAYS OPEN if they aren't double covering him.

I think the Crabtree injury was a blessing in disguise.

It really forced Kap to start utilizing Vernon. Really has kind of accelerated their on-field rapport.

l4z4rd · 10-14-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

You consider what Alex Smith did in the playoffs in 2011 to be a "hot" run?

Takes more than one game (that really wasn't all that spectacular an effort against the D he faced) to qualify for a hot streak, doesn't it?

5 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, 0 TO, in his 2 playoff games. His specials teams let him down... twice.

9er guy · 10-14-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

which one? both the left to the sideline, and the right one for the td, those were evil passes. I mean absolute dimes.

2nd Quarter. The one where Vernon lined up at WR. I'm not sure if it was a 9 or a double move. The DB did a good job of staying with it. Kap just dropped it in the bucket.

duncan_idaho · 10-14-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by l4z4rd

5 passing TDs, 1 rushing TD, 0 TO, in his 2 playoff games. His specials teams let him down... twice.

He had a decent game against the Saints. Pretty average for what opposing QBs did to that team in 2011, actually. Their passing D was not that good.

He was bad against the Giants. There is no way around it.

One game does not a hot streak make.

BigCatDaddy · 10-14-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NinerDoug

He certainly looked bad yesterday. Was not the first time, and wont be the last. Of course, that is true of most quarterbacks.

How is that sig looking broski? He's only off pace to be in the top 10 by about 60 yards/game

He needs to throw for about 325 a game for the rest of the season to have a shot

duncan_idaho · 10-14-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Hyperbole much?
Alex Smith is a very good to excellent QB for what Reid wants to run/implement in his offense.

That's a debatable point, as he has never performed well in that type of offense in the past and is not performing well in that type of offense this year. Especially of late.

If Andy Reid wants to throw the ball vertically as much as he has in the past, Alex Smith is NOT an excellent QB for what he wants to do.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

This Chicken Little attitude after six games, with all six games being victories, is stupid beyond stupid.

It's not Chicken Little if the sky is really falling. Objectively observing reasons for concern/future lack of success is not being Chicken Little. Especially when the Chiefs fan base has seen this EXACT formula before.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

If you depressing, defeatist, sour little pricks think you need to bitch and moan and whine and otherwise piss your tiny, pink panties about why a 6-0 team is so bad, I heartily recommend that you go over to a Giants, Texans, Steeler or Buccaneers board so your bitching is at least legitimate.

You know, it's funny. You keep mentioning everyone else having their panties in a bunch... perhaps you should look in a mirror, sir.

NinerDoug · 10-14-2013, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

How is that sig looking broski? He's only off pace to be in the top 10 by about 60 yards/game

He needs to throw for about 325 a game for the rest of the season to have a shot

Not good, lol.

(Although I would expect this season to be a personal best, yardage-wise.)

Saccopoo · 10-14-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

That's a debatable point, as he has never performed well in that type of offense in the past and is not performing well in that type of offense this year. Especially of late.

Could you please tell me exactly when he has played in such offenses?

If Andy Reid wants to throw the ball vertically as much as he has in the past, Alex Smith is NOT an excellent QB for what he wants to do.

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It's not Chicken Little if the sky is really falling. Objectively observing reasons for concern/future lack of success is not being Chicken Little. Especially when the Chiefs fan base has seen this EXACT formula before.

Objectively observing? What are you observing objectively? Objectively, we are 6-0. End. Of. Story.

And when has the Chiefs fan base seen this "EXACT" formula before? 1993? Twenty years ago? Really? And if you think that the offense you are currently seeing is "EXACTLY" like Marty's RRP, I think you need to re-evaluate your conceptualizations of the term "EXACTLY."

I think that most people will take 13-3 and a chance at the playoffs every single season.

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You know, it's funny. You keep mentioning everyone else having their panties in a bunch... perhaps you should look in a mirror, sir.

I'm perfectly fine with a 6-0 record. Pretty giddy with it all things considered. And by all things considered, I mean:

1. Completely new, top to bottom coaching staff at every level.

2. Brand new schemes on both sides of the ball.

3. New QB operating under his seventh offensive coordinator and fifth head coach in eight seasons, as well as two new backups at QB.

4. New GM/management.

5. Three "new" starters on the offensive line, including a rookie from Central Michigan on one of the edges.

6. A completely new TE corps.

7. A completely new fullback.

8. New wide receivers other than Bowe and McCluster.

9. Coming off the worst season in franchise history.

10. Coming off the worst six year run in franchise history.

And yet, we are still 6-0.

6-0.

Let that sink in for a minute.

6-0.

We've beat the Cowboys. The Giants. The Raiders for the first time in six years.

We're 6-0.

I'm completely ****ing fantastic with the team.

It's the little pissy bitches who keep whining and filling their little doll eyes with tears about how bad "it's going to be" or "we've seen this before" or "we might not win the Super Bowl if our offense doesn't get better" bullshit.

Because, that's what it is - bullshit. Negativist bullshit to be exact.

This team hasn't sniffed a single, solitary playoff win in 20 freaking years and now you are all worried that we won't win the Super Bowl this season because our brand new QB had a bad game THAT WE WON?

Chicken little. Wearing diapers.

duncan_idaho · 10-14-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Could you please tell me exactly when he has played in such offenses?

He hasn't played in an Andy Reid offense before. He's never been successful when asked to throw a lot before. There's nothing to point to that shows him being an excellent fit. You thinking he is an excellent fit is just an opinion.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Objectively observing? What are you observing objectively? Objectively, we are 6-0. End. Of. Story.

Yes, the Chiefs are 6-0, which sounds great and is pretty cool but doesn't cover up the cracks in this teams facade. 6-0 against teams that are a combined 11-25, with no team above .500...

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

And when has the Chiefs fan base seen this "EXACT" formula before? 1993? Twenty years ago? Really? And if you think that the offense you are currently seeing is "EXACTLY" like Marty's RRP, I think you need to re-evaluate your conceptualizations of the term "EXACTLY."

I think that most people will take 13-3 and a chance at the playoffs every single season.

I mean, great defense, shitty offense. We've seen that formula a lot. We've seen the inverse, too.

I think some are wise enough to see that 13-3 doesn't automatically mean you have a real chance in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm perfectly fine with a 6-0 record. Pretty giddy with it all things considered. And by all things considered, I mean:

1. Completely new, top to bottom coaching staff at every level.

2. Brand new schemes on both sides of the ball.

3. New QB operating under his seventh offensive coordinator and fifth head coach in eight seasons, as well as two new backups at QB.

4. New GM/management.

5. Three "new" starters on the offensive line, including a rookie from Central Michigan on one of the edges.

6. A completely new TE corps.

7. A completely new fullback.

8. New wide receivers other than Bowe and McCluster.

9. Coming off the worst season in franchise history.

10. Coming off the worst six year run in franchise history.

And yet, we are still 6-0.

6-0.

Let that sink in for a minute.

6-0.

We've beat the Cowboys. The Giants. The Raiders for the first time in six years.

Combined record: 5-13

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

We're 6-0.

I'm completely ****ing fantastic with the team.

It's the little pissy bitches who keep whining and filling their little doll eyes with tears about how bad "it's going to be" or "we've seen this before" or "we might not win the Super Bowl if our offense doesn't get better" bullshit.

Because, that's what it is - bullshit. Negativist bullshit to be exact.

This team hasn't sniffed a single, solitary playoff win in 20 freaking years and now you are all worried that we won't win the Super Bowl this season because our brand new QB had a bad game THAT WE WON?

Chicken little. Wearing diapers.

Lot of excuses in there. The new scheme that better fits the players doesn't seem to have hurt the defense. If Alex Smith is such a great fit for what Andy Reid wants to do, why is he playing at a lower level than he did in San Francisco?

I still HOPE the offense improves and Alex Smith plays better. Because that would be good for my team.

I thought we were starting to see it after the Giants game. Since then, he has regressed significantly. A slight upward trend has turned into a more significant downward trend.

The Alex Smith we've seen the past two weeks is just not good enough (even separated from the other problems on O). And if you can't see that, you need to pull your head out of the sand.

bishop_74 · 10-14-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The Alex Smith we've seen the past two weeks is just not good enough (even separated from the other problems on O). And if you can't see that, you need to pull your head out of the sand.

Sorry man. I don't agree with this. I don't think he becomes Tom Brady, but if the other facets improve he becomes a very manageable option at QB. He is what he is.

**Mav** · 10-14-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bishop_74

Sorry man. I don't agree with this. I don't think he becomes Tom Brady, but if the other facets improve he becomes a very manageable option at QB.

No one can arguably counter this. This is true. If all other areas of the offense are doing their job, Alex Smith is capable of being a winning qb that is a reason for the winning. Right now though, it doesn't appear that any part of the offense is in proper working condition.

Sandy Vagina · 10-14-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

No one can arguably counter this. This is true. If all other areas of the offense are doing their job, Alex Smith is capable of being a winning qb that is a reason for the winning. Right now though, it doesn't appear that any part of the offense is in proper working condition.

Now that, I agree with.. and had been agreeing that Alex has been disappointing the last 2 weeks. That still doesn't justify you with that sig or putting him with the lowest of the low in that QB rankings thread. That shit is as weak and flip-floppy as Claynus. tisk tisk...

Saccopoo · 10-14-2013, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

He hasn't played in an Andy Reid offense before. He's never been successful when asked to throw a lot before. There's nothing to point to that shows him being an excellent fit. You thinking he is an excellent fit is just an opinion.

Wow. Just like your opinion that thinks he can't.

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Yes, the Chiefs are 6-0, which sounds great and is pretty cool but doesn't cover up the cracks in this teams facade. 6-0 against teams that are a combined 11-25, with no team above .500...

With most of those teams playing against the 6-0 Chiefs and 6-0 Donkeys. I wonder how those teams got those losses?

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I think some are wise enough to see that 13-3 doesn't automatically mean you have a real chance in the playoffs.

But a 9-7 wild card spot does? Because some of the recent Super Bowl winners (Ravens, Packers, Giants) did just that. The only guarantee that you have in equating records to Super Bowl wins is getting into the playoffs. And wins in the regular season seem to go hand in hand with that. I might be wrong, and you could be correct that being 13-3 means absolutely nothing.

However, I'll take my chances at winning in the playoffs by getting into the playoffs.

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Lot of excuses in there. The new scheme that better fits the players doesn't seem to have hurt the defense. If Alex Smith is such a great fit for what Andy Reid wants to do, why is he playing at a lower level than he did in San Francisco?

Maybe we should fire Reid then, huh? I hear that Mike Singletary is available.

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I still HOPE the offense improves and Alex Smith plays better. Because that would be good for my team.

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I thought we were starting to see it after the Giants game. Since then, he has regressed significantly. A slight upward trend has turned into a more significant downward trend.

The Alex Smith we've seen the past two weeks is just not good enough (even separated from the other problems on O). And if you can't see that, you need to pull your head out of the sand.

Good enough to do what exactly?

Win?

6-0.

But I bet we could be even better and be 6-0 if Alex Smith played better.

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