**2014 Official NBA Playoffs Thread**

[-King-]

Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Hawks @ #1 Pacers
#7 Bobcats @ #2 Heat
#6 Nets @ #3 Raptors
#5 Wizards @ #4 Bulls

WEST:
#8 Mavericks @ #1 Spurs
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Thunder
#6 Warriors @ #3 Clippers
#5 Blazers @ #4 Rockets

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

So you are a Boston fan in all sports, I take it.

No.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No need. I don't really worry about contrived statistics. I'll think about having watched all the NBA players since the 70s, and knowing what I've seen.

Rely on those nostalgia affected memories then. The real question isn't whether LeBron will pass Bird at this point as a player (he arguably already has, he's well on track to be one of the top 2 or 3 ever to play the game), it's whether Durant will too.

[KevB]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No need. I don't really worry about contrived statistics. I'll think about having watched all the NBA players since the 70s, and knowing what I've seen.

Ok good, that way there's no bias involved.

Bird is a top 5 player or so, but if LeBron continues as the best player on the planet for a few more years, there won't be an argument.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Rely on those nostalgia affected memories then. The real question isn't whether LeBron will pass Bird at this point as a player (he arguably already has, he's well on track to be one of the top 2 or 3 ever to play the gamel), it's whether Durant will too.

Hey, now tell me something like "A Rod is better than Lou Gehrig, because W.A.R.".

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No.

You're not a fan of any Boston team, then? It's just odd that you would pop in and take issue specifically with Brady and Bird comments (amidst all of the other shit being flung around in here about many, many athletes in a variety of sports).

[notorious]

Whoa. Durant has a metric shit-ton of work to do to be used in the same sentence as Bird.

Maybe if he can get a coach that can get his teammates to run something resembling offense...........

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

Hey, now tell me something like "A Rod is better than Lou Gehrig, because W.A.R.".

ARod is an all-time great just like Gehrig was. Hard to say whether one was better than the other, they played in such vastly different eras of baseball.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by notorious

Whoa. Durant has a metric shit-ton of work to do to be used in the same sentence as Bird.

Maybe if he can get a coach that can get his teammates to run something resembling offense...........

Durant is well on track to be one of the greats himself. He's just generally badly overshadowed by how good LeBron is (although not this year according to the writers).

And yes, Durant would be far better off in a terrible offensive system that didn't rely on him and Westbrook to just take ridiculous ISO shots all game.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by KevB

Ok good, that way there's no bias involved.

There will always be bias involved when you look at players from differing eras. It's impossible for it to be otherwise.

Originally Posted by KevB

Bird is a top 5 player or so, but if LeBron continues as the best player on the planet for a few more years, there won't be an argument.

That's silly. James is playing in an era where his best competition is old and declining, where the rules have all but eliminated the center position, and where most big men are as soft as Charmin. Bird/Magic/Barkley & Co. were all playing top quality ball at the same time, until injuries and other things interfered, and when quality, tough big men were all over the place.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You're not a fan of any Boston team, then? It's just odd that you would pop in and take issue specifically with Brady and Bird comments (amidst all of the other shit being flung around in here about many, many athletes in a variety of sports).

I happened to see the posts on Bird and Brady, so I responded. When one of you starts claiming that LeBron is more of a force than Chamberlain, I promise to laugh at that, too, if I see it.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I happened to see the posts on Bird and Brady, so I responded. When one of you starts claiming that LeBron is more of a force than Chamberlain, I promise to laugh at that, too.

I'm not sure why you bother denying your Boston fanship, though. At least I admit my biases.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Rely on those nostalgia affected memories then. The real question isn't whether LeBron will pass Bird at this point as a player (he arguably already has, he's well on track to be one of the top 2 or 3 ever to play the game), it's whether Durant will too.

Haha

[KevB]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

There will always be bias involved when you look at players from differing eras. It's impossible for it to be otherwise.



That's silly. James is playing in an era where his best competition is old and declining, where the rules have all but eliminated the center position, and where most big men are as soft as Charmin. Bird/Magic/Barkley & Co. were all playing top quality ball at the same time, until injuries and other things interfered, and when quality, tough big men were all over the place.

So basketball was better back then, therefore any comparable player in today's game takes a back seat? Got it, seems reasonable. Let me ask this..... If James got to play with one of those tough quality big men.... how might that help him?

Oh, and every era has old and declining, peak, and up and coming. No different today.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by KevB

So basketball was better back then, therefore any comparable player in today's game takes a back seat? Got it, seems reasonable. Let me ask this..... If James got to play with one of those tough quality big men.... how might that help him?

Oh, and every era has old and declining, peak, and up and coming. No different today.

It's not worth it. The guy's a Celtics fan who is nostalgic about Bird and old-time basketball, there will be no getting through to him on this point.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I'm not sure why you bother denying your Boston fanship, though. At least I admit my biases.

I didn't deny any Boston fanship.