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Old 03-09-2017, 11:23 AM  
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Paul Ryan is a superstar

He's giving a good presentation on GOP efforts to repeal and replace Obamacare right now. It's amazing that there are members of the House (notably members of the freedom caucus) who don't understand the Senate concept of reconciliation. The freedom caucus, Rand "grandstand" Paul, and the most moderate senators had better not screw this up. Donald Trump needs to be prepared to hold their feet to the fire.
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Old 03-26-2017, 06:55 PM   #781
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When it comes to shilling for the GOP, you're ridiculous. Ryan got his ass handed to him over this, and you're trying to blame the Republican group that, rightly, held its ground rather than agreeing to a shitty bill.

There was another bill that could have been brought forward. It's a bill that Republicans have passed in the past. Even if it had not been part of budget reconciliation, and it got filibustered, it could have gotten the Democrats on record against it, and been used to stir up more Republican sentiment for the 2018 senate races.

Instead, leadership pushed a shit bill, and Ryan failed miserably. That's not a superstar. That's a clown.
That's not a solution. That's politics as usual. Donald Trump promised solutions.
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Old 03-26-2017, 06:58 PM   #782
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Fox News host calls on Ryan to step down, hours after Trump tweets about her show
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:28 PM   #783
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Do you eat your own poop?
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:29 PM   #784
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Do you eat your own poop?
Very well thought out response there, Chip.
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:31 PM   #785
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Very well thought out response there, Chip.
It make sense don't you think? Dave eating his own poop.
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Old 03-26-2017, 07:32 PM   #786
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It make sense don't you think? Dave eating his own poop.
I will bet you $1000 that he does not.
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:08 PM   #787
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:17 PM   #788
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He pulled the bill. Yeah, he gave up... Others will spin it otherwise, but we know.
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:17 PM   #789
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That's not a solution. That's politics as usual. Donald Trump promised solutions.
Of course it's a solution. It's part one of a multi-pronged approach. In other words, it's the same thing Ryan was pimping. The difference is that it would be honest.

Again, you're making yourself look foolish with lame ass defenses of the GOP establishment clowns.
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Old 03-27-2017, 07:15 AM   #790
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Congressman steps down, but it's not Paul Ryan:

Congressman Ted Poe resigns from Freedom Caucus because they foolishly torpedoed the health care reform bill. Says that Trump and Ryan made serious concessions in an effort to achieve compromise with the FC members and he blamed his fellow FC members for the failure.

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Old 03-27-2017, 07:56 AM   #791
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Plenty of blame to go all around. Every house member should be held accountable. Nancy should be tar and feathered for her comments following the pull
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Old 03-27-2017, 08:03 AM   #792
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Plenty of blame to go all around. Every house member should be held accountable. Nancy should be tar and feathered for her comments following the pull
When you spread the blame too thin, it's like not blaming anyone. The Freedom Caucus killed this and, along with it, degraded conservative influence in the Trump administration going forward. Thanks Freedummies.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:11 AM   #793
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When you spread the blame too thin, it's like not blaming anyone. The Freedom Caucus killed this and, along with it, degraded conservative influence in the Trump administration going forward. Thanks Freedummies.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:27 AM   #794
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When you spread the blame too thin, it's like not blaming anyone. The Freedom Caucus killed this and, along with it, degraded conservative influence in the Trump administration going forward. Thanks Freedummies.
Don't blame us. Our guys voted like we expect them to vote. Don't think you're going to create a bill that goes against our guys' principle and get their votes. They know that's the fastest way for them to lose support. There's no need to spread the blame anyway. This is 100% Paul Ryan's fault. He should resign. He can't lead.
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Old 03-27-2017, 09:31 AM   #795
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Freedom Caucus members work for their constituents who voted for what they would do. They don't vote for power, or the Uni-Party.
Furthermore, most members didn't even read the bill. Guess it's alright to pass it first to find out the full content. People don't want business as usual.

That this was a bad move is a media-driven narrative.
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