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Old 01-12-2018, 10:08 AM  
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The. Bulls continue to run. None of us even knew how much a drag Obama really was. The opportunity cost to all Americans for that failed experiment was huge. 26000 in reach. Is 30000 possible?
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:47 PM   #16
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Obama took office in Jan 2009, genius.
Yeah, dumbass, markets react the day they realize who the new POTUS is going to be.. That why I went from November to November.. Genius!

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The market took a dive after you racist Barry was elected, it wasn't until people realized the republicans would take over enough of congress and counter his attempt to drive the nation into the ground that confidence in the market was restored.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:52 PM   #17
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Yeah, dumbass, markets react the day they realize who the new POTUS is going to be.. That why I went from November to November.. Genius!



The market took a dive after you racist Barry was elected, it wasn't until people realized the republicans would take over enough of congress and counter his attempt to drive the nation into the ground that confidence in the market was restored.
Is there a reason you keep referencing November 2007?
Once you figure that out, notice how he reversed Bush's Great Recession by getting the stimulus bill passed. Thanks, Obama.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:56 PM   #18
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We have a vastly different definition. It was ok under Obama.

What you have seen since Trump, reduced regulations and a revamped tax code is the drag Obamas regs and taxes caused.

Plus the lack of any optimism for the future. Obama was a bummer when it came to giving people a reason to be positive.

Donald gives people a sense of the future we can have.
You have this 100% backwards.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:59 PM   #19
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You have this 100% backwards.
Do you now have feelings of uncertainty? Lack of direction? No real commitment? Conflicting priorities?

I can't believe that after a year of amazing progress and economic success for all Americans you still dont get that positive energy that we see all across the country?
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:05 PM   #20
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Do you now have feelings of uncertainty? Lack of direction? No real commitment? Conflicting priorities?

I can't believe that after a year of amazing progress and economic success for all Americans you still dont get that positive energy that we see all across the country?
We had amazing progress and economic success long before Trump.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:13 PM   #21
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Is there a reason you keep referencing November 2007?
Once you figure that out, notice how he reversed Bush's Great Recession by getting the stimulus bill passed. Thanks, Obama.
You're right, I was off a bit. Oh well. So, he went from 8,046 to 17,910, so he did double it. Child's play really, but not a loss..

That's an average growth of 1,233 points a year for Barry's years, and 5,512 for The Don's first year. That's 4.47 times the growth now that The Don has restored faith in America around the world, and he's restored truth, justice, and the American way here in the homeland, not to mention he's ended 8 years of racist tyranny from the White House.

Or are you unhappy with the growth in the market?
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Old 01-13-2018, 08:27 AM   #22
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We had amazing progress and economic success long before Trump.
We had some progress, slower than it should have been and stagnant for the middle class and poor. The Obama years if they served anyone well was the top 20%, he was a disaster for the average Joe.

But then you see it as Obama and that is like a magnifier.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:48 AM   #23
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The surge is good at every level!
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A fact of life is that every business cycle ends; and this one, which started in 2009 when Obama’s stimulus kicked in, has already lasted longer than any other on record, save the ten-year Clinton expansion (March 1991 to March 2001). Moreover, the largest factor sustaining this expansion is winding down. Four years of rapid job growth have brought the unemployment rate to 4.1 percent—well below the
Federal Reserve’s estimate of “full employment,”—so future job creation almost inevitably will slow down. More generally, the record of the last two years on
GDP growth, business investment, consumer spending and personal disposable income all show an expansion considerably weaker than the 1990s cycle at a comparable point (1999).
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Macy's Announces 5,000 Job Cuts, Closure Of 7 More Stores; Stock Tumbles
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Old 01-13-2018, 10:53 AM   #26
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Enjoy it while it lasts.
IIRC 30 GOP congressman and 8 DEM's are stepping down.

INCUMBENTS leaving without a fight.

That's a win in my book.

No one wants to lose a race to Kid Rock or Oprah...
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"That gives you a sense of how global financial markets are most likely going to respond if it is the case that Donald Trump pulls out a victory tonight and is declared the President of the United States,” - Chris Hayes, Nov 8 2016
Are you Chris Hayes? If memory serves you pussed out and went 100% treasuries not long into the new administration.
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Nordstrom's said sales were good, not great.
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Nordstrom's said sales were good, not great.
Macys saw it coming. Nordstroms should have. Both are almost a copy of Sears in 1970. Neither have adapted. We have a Macys and my wife will go only for cosmetics. You could shoot a gun down any aisle and not risk a thing. And the customers are all way older than us and we are 65.

Their shortfall is not the economy, its the model
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