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Old 11-12-2018, 10:14 AM  
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:06 PM   #31
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Among the Commission’s nine recommendations, it urges the state to take a greater leadership role in collaborative forest management planning at the watershed level. The Good Neighbor Authority granted in the 2014 Farm Bill provides a mechanism for the state to conduct restoration activities on federal land, but state agencies must have the financial and personnel resources to perform this work. As part of this collaborative effort, it calls upon the state to use more prescribed fire to reinvigorate forests, inhibit firestorms and help protect air and water quality. Central to these efforts must be a statewide public education campaign to help Californians understand why healthy forests matter to them, and elicit buy-in for the much-needed forest treatments.
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Old 11-12-2018, 03:16 PM   #32
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Old 11-12-2018, 09:42 PM   #33
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You're mistaken.

I’m not mistaken about anything. I don’t live in that miserable state - but I have a friend that does. His words, not mine.

Although I WILL stand by the idea that within 15-25 years the state will be unrecognizable from what it once was. It ALWAYS happens when Liberal Fascists take control of a state or a city.

I don’t know....Kansas and our new “governor” won’t change much. She won’t get anything done. Can’t.
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Old 11-13-2018, 08:56 AM   #34
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These California fires are a self-induced disaster.

California fires are the direct result of shortsighted environmentalist policies that prohibit forest management. Often to save wildlife.
Years ago, the California government began interfering with local efforts to bulldoze the deadwood out of forests as part of a forest management plan to reduce fire risk. ...under the banner of “environmentalism,” usually with emotional pleas to “save the wildlife” by leaving all the forests alone.

Year after year, the deadwood built up. It was only a matter of time, of course, before a fire would be ignited by lightning (Mother Nature’s natural fire starter). Fueled by the tremendous underbrush that was no longer being cleaned out of the forests, the fires erupted with catastrophic ferocity.

“Extreme environmentalists have shut down public access. They talk about habitat, and yet they are willing to burn it up,” warned Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke in an interview with KCRA. “This has nothing to do with climate change. This has to do with active forest management,” he said.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/11/...uced-disaster/
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:01 AM   #35
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These California fires are a self-induced disaster.

California fires are the direct result of shortsighted environmentalist policies that prohibit forest management. Often to save wildlife.
Years ago, the California government began interfering with local efforts to bulldoze the deadwood out of forests as part of a forest management plan to reduce fire risk. ...under the banner of “environmentalism,” usually with emotional pleas to “save the wildlife” by leaving all the forests alone.

Year after year, the deadwood built up. It was only a matter of time, of course, before a fire would be ignited by lightning (Mother Nature’s natural fire starter). Fueled by the tremendous underbrush that was no longer being cleaned out of the forests, the fires erupted with catastrophic ferocity.

“Extreme environmentalists have shut down public access. They talk about habitat, and yet they are willing to burn it up,” warned Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke in an interview with KCRA. “This has nothing to do with climate change. This has to do with active forest management,” he said.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/11/...uced-disaster/


Agree.. **** KKKalifornia... Elections have consequences, and in this case it's burning people's land and property.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:03 AM   #36
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Hopefully all those Hollyweirdos lose everything, and are uninsured. And then make good on their threats to leave the US.....moving to a nonwhite country.
Ya' know what's funny about that. Canada now has a refugee/migrant crisis. I thought when I first read that, it was referring to American celebrities making good on their promises to leave here and move to Canada.

Lo' and behold, because of our own illegal migrants, immigrants or refugees being afraid under Trump, they have begun to just walk over the border into Canada. Canada's been rounding them up, and processing them quickly because they feel if they don't remove them fast they won't ever be able to get rid of them.
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:33 AM   #37
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From my understanding Trumps gripe come from the fact that California doesn't clear out underbrush with controlled burns.

or at least they make it near impossible to pull off
That's a load of bullshit. People not from Cali don't seem to realize how much dead brush their is in this state.
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:38 AM   #38
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Hope it all burns down. Those cockroaches said Oklahoma deserved the tornado and Texas and Florida deserved their hurricanes.

Maybe they deserve to burn to death?
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:44 AM   #39
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That's a load of bullshit. People not from Cali don't seem to realize how much dead brush their is in this state.
There was a commissioned report about it. Or in words you might under stand

"97% of Wild Life Commissioners agree California doesn't manage it's forests very well"
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:57 AM   #40
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Hope it all burns down. Those cockroaches said Oklahoma deserved the tornado and Texas and Florida deserved their hurricanes.

Maybe they deserve to burn to death?
Let's hope they start fracking on the fault line. L.A. and S.F. Sliding into the ocean would fix a lot of the earth's problems.

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Old 11-13-2018, 11:19 AM   #41
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I mean, really we should probably just excise all the following red / mostly red states:

Alabama (6-1)
Arkansas (4-0)
Idaho (2-0)
Indiana (7-2)
Kentucky (5-1)
Louisiana (5-1)
Missouri (6-2)
Nebraska (3-0)
North Carolina (10-3)
Ohio (12-4)
West Virginia (3-0)
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:21 AM   #42
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I realize that you're just regurgitating Trump, but did you stop to ask yourself how exactly mismanagement caused or exacerbated these fires?
Last time around Trump claimed the fires were the result of "water being diverted into the Pacific."

He's a ****ing idiot.
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:26 AM   #43
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Last time around Trump claimed the fires were the result of "water being diverted into the Pacific."

He's a ****ing idiot.
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:30 AM   #44
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That's a load of bullshit. People not from Cali don't seem to realize how much dead brush their is in this state.
They're always working on it around Yosemite. But you're right, we're talking massive amounts of land, a lot of it inaccessible. Need more controlled burns during the non-fire season.
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