News Trade deadline update....brief take from Coach Reid - Page 3

T-post Tom · 04:41 AM

The general feeling in Kansas City post-deadline day is that the Chiefs tried all they could to make a deadline move happen, but the fit and value just weren’t there.

We referred you to the report from friend of the site Terez Paylor (Yahoo! Sports) this morning, who wrote this:

The Chiefs expressed interest in (Landon) Collins, but the Giants weren’t interested in trading him, Yahoo Sports has learned. Same goes for (Patrick) Peterson, who the Cardinals also weren’t open to trading. A source with knowledge of the club’s thinking also told Yahoo Sports that the Chiefs were not interested in (Janoris) Jenkins, an expensive, 30-year-old corner with uneven tape this season.

If you haven’t had the opportunity to yet, read Paylor’s full column for a glimpse into the Chiefs’ thinking. Paylor also goes through the several reasons the Chiefs didn’t trade for safety HaHa Clinton-Dix, who ultimately landed with Alex Smith in Washington. I provided my take on the Chiefs standing pat at the deadline here.

Still-Giants safety Landon Collins told SNY the Giants wanted a first or second-round pick for his services, plus an additional pick next year.

Landon Collins (on @TMKSESPN) said the Giants “were asking a little bit too much for me, so (teams) just kind of backed off.” ... He heard the Giants wanted a first or second-round pick in 2019 plus a pick next year. https://t.co/aeQ1kbHesG
— Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY) October 30, 2018

The local Kansas City media asked Chiefs head coach Andy Reid for his take on the quiet deadline on Wednesday. In response, Reid told the media to ask general manager Brett Veach, who wasn’t made available for questions.

“I mean that’d probably be a good question for Brett (Veach),” Reid said. “I know where his mind is, there just wasn’t anything there that he felt he needed to move on. He felt comfortable with doing that. He’s not going to do something just to do it to appease.

“He’s going to do what’s best for the Chiefs and he’s really good about that. That’s just where he’s at.”

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ade-to-appease

htismaqe · 11-01-2018, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi

We know you are a salary cap truther but the reality is teams let guys go for cap reasons all the time.

Of course they do, I never said they didn't.

There's an almost panic here about losing like SIX players.

Signing Landon Collins wasn't going to prevent them from signing Tyreek Hill because NOTHING is going to prevent that. He's a generational talent.

In fact, signing Landon Collins would have forced something with Eric Berry, who is currently doing nothing but ruining the cap situation.

**wazu** · 11-01-2018, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I’m sure Andy has input. The real kind.
It was Veach who screamed to anyone in the Chiefs organization that they had to move up and get Mahomes. Reid has spoken publicly about the number of times Veach was in his face that Mahomes was the man. Corner him and make him come and watch new tape on Mahomes. Moved Reid’s meetings to allow him to talk Mahomes to Reid.

Seems to me that Reid is going to trust his judgement after that experience.

Also seems like Veach is pretty good at selling his ideas across the organization. That was a pretty crazy trade to move up that far for Mahomes when the team already had Alex. You don’t do that without everyone on board.

htismaqe · 11-01-2018, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

True. And to say that Veach didn't address the safety position during the off season is not true. He drafted Watts and O'Daniel and traded for Lucas. Plus he was counting on Berry and didn't know Sorensen would be injured.

Watts was a 4th round pick. He wasn't ever part of the solution. He was going to play special teams and spot duty at safety.

htismaqe · 11-01-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

And in the great scheme of things the loss at NE doesn't really matter. You have to win games at the end of the season, you control your own destiny.

Yep, and that's exactly what many of us are concerned with.

Sassy Squatch · 11-01-2018, 08:52 AM

Chiefs saw these guys as rentals, not part of the long term solution. All there is to it.

htismaqe · 11-01-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Chiefs saw these guys as rentals, not part of the long term solution. All there is to it.

There's a bit more to it than that. They might have seen them as part of the long-term solution but found that such a scenario was more expensive than they wanted. And the draft picks were too much for anything less.

Either way, it wasn't in the cards. They didn't do anything and it's time to move on.

**dannybcaitlyn** · 11-01-2018, 09:01 AM

Let’s revisit this thread when we get bounced out of the playoffs in the first round and give up a twenty point lead because Ron Parker is too slow to help over the top and does little for run support. A 2nd for Collins wouldn’t look so bad then. Also lose another year off of Mahomes rookie contract.

htismaqe · 11-01-2018, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

Let’s revisit this thread when we get bounced out of the playoffs in the first round and give up a twenty point lead because Ron Parker is too slow to help over the top and does little for run support. A 2nd for Collins wouldn’t look so bad then. Also lose another year off of Mahomes rookie contract.

A lot of us fear that but what are we honestly to do at this point? Wring our hands for the rest of the season? The season is still going to be fun because Mahomes.

They didn't do anything. Nothing we can do about it.

TEX · 11-01-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn

Let’s revisit this thread when we get bounced out of the playoffs in the first round and give up a twenty point lead because Ron Parker is too slow to help over the top and does little for run support. A 2nd for Collins wouldn’t look so bad then. Also lose another year off of Mahomes rookie contract.

I'd have no problem with the 2nd, its the additional pick in the following draft that I'd have an issue with.

htismaqe · 11-01-2018, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

I'd have no problem with the 2nd, its the additional pick in the following draft that I'd have an issue with.

The real issue is that we didn't move for any of these guys because of Eric Berry. He needs to get his behind on the field.

**dannybcaitlyn** · 11-01-2018, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

A lot of us fear that but what are we honestly to do at this point? Wring our hands for the rest of the season? The season is still going to be fun because Mahomes.

They didn't do anything. Nothing we can do about it.

Yup, your right. Nothing we can do now. I understand we’re winning right now but once playoffs start all the teams pick it up a notch it seems. Our shakey secondary worries me. The season has been a blast to watch with Mahomes and I hope he can get us over the hump.

oldman · 11-01-2018, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Watts was a 4th round pick. He wasn't ever part of the solution. He was going to play special teams and spot duty at safety.

Were you in the room with Brett and Andy? DRob was a 4th and Hill (maybe because of his antics) was a 5th. I'm not saying that all 4ths work out. We all know 1s and 2s aren't always winners, either.

TEX · 11-01-2018, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

A lot of us fear that but what are we honestly to do at this point? Wring our hands for the rest of the season? The season is still going to be fun because Mahomes.

They didn't do anything. Nothing we can do about it.

Yep. Also, didn't think Mahomes would be this good this early, so that was a steering factor last off season.

htismaqe · 11-01-2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman

Were you in the room with Brett and Andy? DRob was a 4th and Hill (maybe because of his antics) was a 5th. I'm not saying that all 4ths work out. We all know 1s and 2s aren't always winners, either.

I don't have to be in the room with them.

He was a 4th round pick. How often are 4th round picks taken to be day 1 starters?

Furthermore, he wasn't a day 1 starter so that pretty much proves my point.

htismaqe · 11-01-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Yep. Also, didn't think Mahomes would be this good this early, so that was a steering factor last off season.

IMO, it should have been a steering factor now too but it wasn't.

The whole team is ahead of schedule, except for the defense. But it is what it is.

11-01-2018, 04:23 AM
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4607293	Trade deadline update....brief take from Coach Reid The general feeling in Kansas City post-deadline day is that the Chiefs tried all they could to make a deadline move happen, but the fit and value just weren’t there. We referred you to the report from friend of the site Terez Paylor (Yahoo! Sports) this morning, who wrote this: The Chiefs expressed interest in (Landon) Collins, but the Giants weren’t interested in trading him, Yahoo Sports has learned. Same goes for (Patrick) Peterson, who the Cardinals also weren’t open to trading. A source with knowledge of the club’s thinking also told Yahoo Sports that the Chiefs were not interested in (Janoris) Jenkins, an expensive, 30-year-old corner with uneven tape this season. If you haven’t had the opportunity to yet, read Paylor’s full column for a glimpse into the Chiefs’ thinking. Paylor also goes through the several reasons the Chiefs didn’t trade for safety HaHa Clinton-Dix, who ultimately landed with Alex Smith in Washington. I provided my take on the Chiefs standing pat at the deadline here. Still-Giants safety Landon Collins told SNY the Giants wanted a first or second-round pick for his services, plus an additional pick next year. Landon Collins (on @TMKSESPN) said the Giants “were asking a little bit too much for me, so (teams) just kind of backed off.” ... He heard the Giants wanted a first or second-round pick in 2019 plus a pick next year. https://t.co/aeQ1kbHesG — Ralph Vacchiano (@RVacchianoSNY) October 30, 2018 The local Kansas City media asked Chiefs head coach Andy Reid for his take on the quiet deadline on Wednesday. In response, Reid told the media to ask general manager Brett Veach, who wasn’t made available for questions. “I mean that’d probably be a good question for Brett (Veach),” Reid said. “I know where his mind is, there just wasn’t anything there that he felt he needed to move on. He felt comfortable with doing that. He’s not going to do something just to do it to appease. “He’s going to do what’s best for the Chiefs and he’s really good about that. That’s just where he’s at.” https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ade-to-appease Last edited by T-post Tom; 11-01-2018 at 04:41 AM..
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