Life Texting in the theater in Florida? I don't think so... - Page 10

Al Bundy · 01-13-2014, 05:40 PM

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2...-movie-theater

WESLEY CHAPEL (FOX 13) -

A moviegoer lost his life inside a Pasco County theater Monday afternoon after a dispute over texting with a retired police officer.

According to the sheriff's office, the dispute happened before the 1:20 showing of 'Lone Survivor' had even gotten underway at the Cobb CineBistro at Grove 16 complex on Wesley Grove Blvd.

Investigators say two couples had gotten into an argument over noise.

"The victim was on his cell phone; he was texting. We believe he was making some kind of noise. This noise led to an altercation between the suspect and the victim," Sheriff Chris Nocco explained.

A witness recalled seeing the agitated man -- later identified by deputies as Curtis Reeves -- get up and leave in an apparent attempt to find a manager. When he came back alone, the argument escalated.

Charles Cummings told FOX 13 he heard the victim say he was texting his 3-year-old daughter before Reeves pulled out a pistol.

"Their voices start going up, there seems to be a confrontation, somebody throws popcorn, then bang, he was shot," said Cummings, who was there to celebrate his birthday. "I heard the victim say, 'I can't believe...,' then he fell on us."

"I asked if the guy was OK, and he started gurgling blood and then fell," recalled Cummings' son, who said he ran to call 911.

Both the man, identified by deputies as Chad Oulson, and his wife Nicole were struck by the single shot. Oulson, 43, was hit in the chest and died, while Nicole was hit in the hand when she put her hand up in front of her husband. She suffered non-life-threatening injuries.

An off-duty Sumter County deputy inside the theater was able to grab the gun and detain Reeves until deputies arrived, the sheriff added.

Reeves, a 71-year-old retired Tampa police officer, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder. A 2005 Tampa Bay Times article also described him as a former director of security for Busch Gardens.

Moments after he was named as the suspect, Tampa police issued a statement saying Reeves had retired back in 1993 as a captain.

"He was instrumental in establishing the department's first Tactical Response Team," the statement explained. "We are not aware of any contact with the department since his departure more than 20 years ago."

Nocco said his detectives considered if this could be a 'stand your ground' case but decided the criteria did not apply.

"It's absolutely crazy it would rise to this level over somebody just texting in a movie theater," he offered.

"I can't believe people would bring a gun to a movie," added Cummings, a Marine who served in Vietnam. "I can't believe they would argue and fight and shoot one another over popcorn or even a cell phone."

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**BigRichard** · 01-14-2014, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Sorry, but your justification is bullshit. I'm a huge proponent of gun ownership. But you do an incredible disservice to the idea of personal gun ownership by alluding that people should kill someone over a disagreement that might have otherwise resulted in fisticuffs.

What if it was a 71 year old lady? Would fisticuffs be ok then?

Carlota69 · 01-14-2014, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

looks like I pushed the wrong button, sheesh.

Yeah, you insulted me for absolutely no reason. You did it for sport, and Im not going to take your shit. So guess what, you get insulted right back sir.

PunkinDrublic · 01-14-2014, 12:55 PM

To paraphrase Chris Rock. I'm not saying he should've killed him but I understand.

**BigRichard** · 01-14-2014, 12:55 PM

I am actually surprised this hasn't ended up in DC yet. It will be there soon enough. Mods must not be around.

**Dartgod** · 01-14-2014, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Yeah, you insulted me for absolutely no reason. You did it for sport, and Im not going to take your shit. So guess what, you get insulted right back sir.

He's a Donkey fan, Carlota.

**** him.

Pablo · 01-14-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

He's a Donkey fan, Carlota.

**** him.

This.

Racking up thousands of post over a decade on a Chiefs site.

kcfanXIII · 01-14-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

No, of course the only logical thing to do is kill a man with your gun in a crowded theater.

You are operating under the assumption it went text, text, bang. I'm operating under the assumption that physical force was attempted and this man defended himself. I never said one was logical, and the other wasn't. I said we don't have enough information about the incident. Does it sound logical that a retired law enforcement official, who is far more trained at interpreting the CCW laws of florida than you or I, would illegally shoot a man? He obviously kept up with his training with his gun, and was composed enough to only fire once. Why was the wife's hand in the way of the bullet if she isn't trying to hold her husband back? There just isn't enough info out there to claim beyond a shadow of a doubt that this shooting wasn't justified.

Pablo · 01-14-2014, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Sorry, but your justification is bullshit. I'm a huge proponent of gun ownership. But you do an incredible disservice to the idea of personal gun ownership by alluding that people should kill someone over a disagreement that might have otherwise resulted in fisticuffs.

Back in my day, when two guys had a disagreement, they took it outside and settled it like men!

Nowadays, you just get shot inside a movie theater. Kind of takes the bravado out of the whole scenario.

Tombstone RJ · 01-14-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo

This.

Racking up thousands of post over a decade on a Chiefs site.

it's really not that many for as long as I've been a member here...

Fish · 01-14-2014, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

You are operating under the assumption it went text, text, bang. I'm operating under the assumption that physical force was attempted and this man defended himself. I never said one was logical, and the other wasn't. I said we don't have enough information about the incident. Does it sound logical that a retired law enforcement official, who is far more trained at interpreting the CCW laws of florida than you or I, would illegally shoot a man? He obviously kept up with his training with his gun, and was composed enough to only fire once. Why was the wife's hand in the way of the bullet if she isn't trying to hold her husband back? There just isn't enough info out there to claim beyond a shadow of a doubt that this shooting wasn't justified.

So.... without having all the info, you automatically assume the worst and would retaliate with deadly force?

JFC.....

kcfanXIII · 01-14-2014, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

Sorry, but your justification is bullshit. I'm a huge proponent of gun ownership. But you do an incredible disservice to the idea of personal gun ownership by alluding that people should kill someone over a disagreement that might have otherwise resulted in fisticuffs.

and I say to you, I have no obligation to take a physical assault without defending myself. There is no guarantee that the attacker will stop, and it IS a life endangering event. Don't want to get shot? Don't start a fight.

Tombstone RJ · 01-14-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69

Yeah, you insulted me for absolutely no reason. You did it for sport, and Im not going to take your shit. So guess what, you get insulted right back sir.

didn't mean to "insult" you. Nice chatting with you... I think. Maybe not.

Pablo · 01-14-2014, 01:05 PM

Pussification of 'Merica and stuff.

Guys are scared to take a bloody lip anymore, so they have to shoot anything that intimidates them.

kcfanXIII · 01-14-2014, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

So.... without having all the info, you automatically assume the worst and would retaliate with deadly force?

JFC.....

Obviously if I was involved, I would have all the information, and be able to make a judgment. As I was not there, I don't know all the details. Only some, and I'm left to assume the rest.

Fish · 01-14-2014, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

and I say to you, I have no obligation to take a physical assault without defending myself. There is no guarantee that the attacker will stop, and it IS a life endangering event. Don't want to get shot? Don't start a fight.

Yeah, OK George Zimmerman. I thought I was talking to a man who could handle himself...

01-13-2014, 05:40 PM
Al Bundy Damnit Peg Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5401831	Texting in the theater in Florida? I don't think so... http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2...-movie-theater WESLEY CHAPEL (FOX 13) - A moviegoer lost his life inside a Pasco County theater Monday afternoon after a dispute over texting with a retired police officer. According to the sheriff's office, the dispute happened before the 1:20 showing of 'Lone Survivor' had even gotten underway at the Cobb CineBistro at Grove 16 complex on Wesley Grove Blvd. Investigators say two couples had gotten into an argument over noise. "The victim was on his cell phone; he was texting. We believe he was making some kind of noise. This noise led to an altercation between the suspect and the victim," Sheriff Chris Nocco explained. A witness recalled seeing the agitated man -- later identified by deputies as Curtis Reeves -- get up and leave in an apparent attempt to find a manager. When he came back alone, the argument escalated. Charles Cummings told FOX 13 he heard the victim say he was texting his 3-year-old daughter before Reeves pulled out a pistol. "Their voices start going up, there seems to be a confrontation, somebody throws popcorn, then bang, he was shot," said Cummings, who was there to celebrate his birthday. "I heard the victim say, 'I can't believe...,' then he fell on us." "I asked if the guy was OK, and he started gurgling blood and then fell," recalled Cummings' son, who said he ran to call 911. Both the man, identified by deputies as Chad Oulson, and his wife Nicole were struck by the single shot. Oulson, 43, was hit in the chest and died, while Nicole was hit in the hand when she put her hand up in front of her husband. She suffered non-life-threatening injuries. An off-duty Sumter County deputy inside the theater was able to grab the gun and detain Reeves until deputies arrived, the sheriff added. Reeves, a 71-year-old retired Tampa police officer, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder. A 2005 Tampa Bay Times article also described him as a former director of security for Busch Gardens. Moments after he was named as the suspect, Tampa police issued a statement saying Reeves had retired back in 1993 as a captain. "He was instrumental in establishing the department's first Tactical Response Team," the statement explained. "We are not aware of any contact with the department since his departure more than 20 years ago." Nocco said his detectives considered if this could be a 'stand your ground' case but decided the criteria did not apply. "It's absolutely crazy it would rise to this level over somebody just texting in a movie theater," he offered. "I can't believe people would bring a gun to a movie," added Cummings, a Marine who served in Vietnam. "I can't believe they would argue and fight and shoot one another over popcorn or even a cell phone." Read more: http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/2...#ixzz2qKGDJNuj Follow us: @myfoxtampabay on Twitter \| FOX13TampaBay on Facebook
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