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Old 04-15-2008, 10:03 PM   #1246
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I just don't understand how Mike Adamle can be so awful. I think I'd actually rather hear Kevin Kelly on the mic. Without Taz there to salvage things, he'd give West and Tenay a run for their money.

Also, it's funny to see Punk and Shannon Moore on the same side. He is a poser, after all.

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Old 04-15-2008, 11:06 PM   #1247
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Adamle's commentary was the worst I've ever heard. I actually felt sorry for him. It was that bad.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:37 AM   #1248
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You guys do know it's not real right? It's just big oiled up roidos gracefully groping each other in a choreographed and predetermined manner.

But who am I to judge. NFL is rigged. They want beantown vs NY rivalry so they let the Giants win. NBA is rigged. Celtics and Lakers? Come on. MLB finally letting Red Sox dominate. I predict Cubs win this year.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:57 AM   #1249
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You guys do know it's not real right? It's just big oiled up roidos gracefully groping each other in a choreographed and predetermined manner.

But who am I to judge. NFL is rigged. They want beantown vs NY rivalry so they let the Giants win. NBA is rigged. Celtics and Lakers? Come on. MLB finally letting Red Sox dominate. I predict Cubs win this year.
Just think of it as a highly athletic soap opera with tons of violence.

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Old 04-16-2008, 05:20 AM   #1251
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It's a TV show, basically. I've never seen it as a sporting event, although the choreography involved takes years to master and there's no question that some of the best guys are as athletic as anyone in any major sport.

And my wonderful new DVR system from those incredibly smart people at Time Warner didn't record ECW or anything else last night (I had an old episode of reaper I missed set, too, IIRC), which is the second time in the last week I've lost an entire night of shows for no reason at all. My box was actually off when I got up a few minutes ago.
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:15 AM   #1252
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Adamle's commentary was the worst I've ever heard. I actually felt sorry for him. It was that bad.
Exactly. It wasn't the Tenay/West "I want to kill them" kind of bad, it was just pathetic. Hearing him just made me cringe for him.

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Oh shit, this is a shoot brother!
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:51 PM   #1253
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I'm disappointed. I expected Adamle to be much worse. It wasn't quite bad enough to make it funny.

Just finished watching Joe/Angle. I thought it was a solid match. Shame it didn't happen a year ago before they fucked up Joe's build. He could have been a monster now, but he's just another guy on the TNA roster. Maybe if they let him hold the belt in a dominating fashion for a while they can rebuild him.

Although, honestly, if they're going towards more "realistic" mma-influenced matches like that, Angle is the guy that should have the belt. Joe's believable as a pro-wrestler. He's too chubby if they're making a move to shoot-style stuff. (And I'm a big Joe fan...)
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God. As soon as I thought, "Hey, outside of cutting to commercial as the guy with a title shot attacks the champion with the briefcase, this Impact hasn't been as awful as usual," they just gave the ****ing tag titles to Kaz and Eric-Young's-Awful-Greg-Helms-Impersonation after he ran to the back, put on a mask, hulked up, and took AJ out in under a minute. Not only that, but the angle on their replay (which they've had literally DAYS to fix) clearly showed AJ's shoulders pop up off of the mat before the three-count.

And now AJ (suddenly wearing a shirt) and Tomko are arguing with Cornette over the controversy... the controversy being that Super Eric "interfered" in the match, not the shoulders-up thing. Uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggh. Everyone in this company is written as if they're reeruned.

So that's one cheapish but understandable title change, and one title-devaluing (as if being in TNA isn't enough) change. Beautiful.
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They should just run two hours of Cornette yelling at women for every Impact.

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Old 04-17-2008, 08:47 PM   #1256
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Does YouTube have the video of Cornette taking a banana up his ass?
Hey, even better... a video of Stephanie McMahon saying she can't get enough anal.

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God. As soon as I thought, "Hey, outside of cutting to commercial as the guy with a title shot attacks the champion with the briefcase, this Impact hasn't been as awful as usual," they just gave the ****ing tag titles to Kaz and Eric-Young's-Awful-Greg-Helms-Impersonation after he ran to the back, put on a mask, hulked up, and took AJ out in under a minute. Not only that, but the angle on their replay (which they've had literally DAYS to fix) clearly showed AJ's shoulders pop up off of the mat before the three-count.

And now AJ (suddenly wearing a shirt) and Tomko are arguing with Cornette over the controversy... the controversy being that Super Eric "interfered" in the match, not the shoulders-up thing. Uggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggh. Everyone in this company is written as if they're reeruned.

So that's one cheapish but understandable title change, and one title-devaluing (as if being in TNA isn't enough) change. Beautiful.
To enjoy wrestling, the main thing is to suspend disbelief. But to enjoy TNA, you have to suspend disbelief and then proceed to punch yourself in the face until you are reeruned.

On a better note, only 2 days until ROH comes back to Chicago and I get to see the Motor City Machine Guns vs. The Briscoes, the rematch one year in the making. I'm also pumped for the Vulture Squad (Jack Evans, Ruckus & Jigsaw) vs. Age of the Fall (Jimmy Jacobs, Tyler Black & Joey Matthews). And the title match between Nigel McGuinness and Kevin Steen should be good, although since they are building Claudio Castagnoli as the next big challenger, I really doubt Steen has a chance of winning.

It would be amazing to see what Gabe Sapolsky (head booker for ROH / Paul Heyman's protege in ECW) could do with TNA, given the level of talent that they are wasting right now (and he booked quite a few TNA roster members in ROH and actually utilized their talents effectively).
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OH BOY. I thought this was going to be a quiet week. No such thing, I guess.

In a decision that really threw everyone for a loop, WWE Chairman Vince McMahon and Executive Producer Kevin Dunn pulled Joey Styles from the position of ECW play-by-play announcer, and replaced him with the indescribably amateurish Mike Adamle.

The reaction was immediate. Even those who never saw Joey in the original Extreme Championship Wrestling were outraged.

Adamle's performance was so terrible, it drew an intense reaction from even casual fans who couldn't possibly care less, and who were ready to take a baseball bat and smash their television sets after listening to his butchering of the program.

I'm not being overly hard on Mike Adamle. It's the old joke about Vince Russo going to WCW. Russo's booking did such damage to the promotion, people in the industry actually believed Vince McMahon sent him to WCW to kill the company.

I'm not kidding. To this day, some people swear it had to be true. Mike Adamle couldn't have done a more p***-poor job at announcing if he tried.

No self-sabotage could have been that consistent. Adamle called "WWE" just "WW". He called Tazz "The Tazz." He mispronounced names, couldn't call holds, and his announcing debut was generally regarded as one of the worst in the history of broadcasting.

Now here's a little secret. SHHHHHHHH.... don't tell anyone.

For everyone who is so up in arms, screaming "we need to tell Vince what we think!" and "This guy's a total disaster," I have a scoop for you, and you're not going to like it.

Adamle is horrible. No one likes him. People at home actually loathe his presence on the show. AND THAT'S EXACTLY THE SORT OF PASSIONATE RESPONSE VINCE McMAHON IS LOOKING FOR!!!

Do you really think Vince doesn't realise how incompetent this tra-la-la-goon-de-yay of an announcer is? The ECW show from the UK was TAPED.

That means there was time for Adamle to grab a mic backstage and clean up the performance. Not the whole miserable, horrible, intolerable hour. Just the really obvious "branding" issues, like all 3 letters that identify World Wrestling Entertainment. Hey, that would be a start, don't you think?

Vince McMahon is not a fan of Joey Styles as an announcer. In 2005, when we were heading into the first ECW One Night Stand pay per view, the lead play-by-play spot was never put into the script.

Even a few weeks before the show, I was writing "announcers" because the decision still hadn't been made to finalise the deal with Joey. Trivia note, by the way: The backup plan was to go with Jim Ross.

In memo to Vince, Stephanie, Shane, Kevin Dunn, and John Laurinaitis, I wrote "If we can't come to terms with Styles - which I am very hopeful we can indeed do, because if we want this show to be "authentic," Joey has to be the play-by-play announcer - then a suggestion for the show without Joey is for Jim Ross to do it.

If the Heyman character does the dreaded ECW shoot promo on Raw, and walks up to JR and states that because we couldn't come to terms with Joey, the only conceivable other answer would be you, JR, because while you've never been in ECW, we all respect your ability to call the product, and there's not an ECW fan alive who deny that you are universally recognised as the best in the game...I would suggest everyone would accept JR in that role, and he would not disappoint on the night of the show."

But Joey did come to terms. And then, when Vince decided for the umteempth time to replace JR, Joey was signed to a five-year contract. And ever since about 10 minutes into Joey's first broadcast, Vince has hated the decision to hire Joey Styles.

I lost more hair arguing that Joey needed to be the host of the resurrected brand in 2006 than I want to even remember. Vince thought of everyone else who could be in that chair. Everyone, of course, except for Mike Adamle.

OK, here it is. Oliver Stone can kiss my kosher a**. This conspiracy is presented to you ... BECAUSE IT'S TRUE!!!

Vince McMahon is not only keenly aware of just how bad Mike Adamle is, he's counting on it. That's why there was no editing done to clean up Adamle's embarrassingly bad performance.

WWE's ECW is doing 1.2 and 1.3 ratings on Sci-Fi. That may keep Bonnie Hammer and Sci-Fi happy because very little else on that network comes close to that number, but I remember the panic setting in when the new ECW was "crashing" into the 2.1 zone.

The show has simply settled in with the audience that will watch whatever product is on, be it "Heat," "Velocity," "TNA," or any other lite version of Raw or Smackdown.

So Vince's big idea for ECW is the train-wreck mentality! I can just see Vince right now, believing every word he himself says. "This guy is so bad, how can anyone NOT watch the show?" And he means it.

Vince actually believes that Mike Adamle is so mind-bogglingly awful, so ill-prepared, so horribly wrong for the show, that people will never be able to turn the dial. It's the Britney Spears mentality. Is she wearing her panties today? Uh oh, she's driving on the highway. Someone call the gossip blogs!

So, what have we learned today? Well, for one, the decision to remove Styles from the broadcasting position in favor of Adamle has dragged down the quality of the already-suffering show even more.

Number Two, that when a young, hungry, ambitious, qualified announcer like Josh Matthews, who has been waiting in the wings for half a decade, is passed over for an incompetent boob like Mike Adamle, there must be a good reason for it.

And three, that reason is because Vince McMahon is sure Adamle is so bad, people will look forward to his performances on ECW because of the very fact that you never know what he's going to screw up next.

And in the end, if you realise that I've spent all this time writing about the decision, you have to give round one to Vince's theory. Let's check those ratings in a month. We'll see how the theory pans out.

Until next time, E-C- ...... um ...... nevermind!
I didn't even think about the fact it was a taped show. They really could have fixed some of that.
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