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Deberg_1990 · 02-22-2013, 08:37 AM

Former Colts GM Polian says Chiefs can find a QB in the draft

— In Bill Polian’s long career as an NFL general manager, his team had the number-one pick in the draft just once. That was in 1998, when he was with Indianapolis, and the Colts that year selected a quarterback, Peyton Manning.

That worked out well for Polian and the Colts. But Polian said he doesn’t think the Chiefs should draft a quarterback with this year’s first pick, even though they would like an upgrade over Matt Cassel. Like many assessing this year’s draft, Polian said there’s not a quarterback worthy of being the number-one selection.

“Just because there’s not a quarterback that everybody now doesn’t think is worth the number-one pick doesn’t mean you can’t get a quarterback,” Polian said. “Nobody thought Russell Wilson was worth a third-round pick except a couple of us. He turned out to be a pretty good quarterback.

“You always go for the best player. It’s foolish to go for need and (Chiefs coach Andy Reid) won’t do that.”

While Reid coached in Philadelphia, the Eagles at least a couple of times found quarterbacks after the first round who eventually became starters, including Kevin Kolb and Nick Foles.

“Nobody develops quarterbacks better than Andy Reid,” Polian said. “So rest assured, you’ve got the right guy. Whatever decision he makes will be the right one. He’ll find a quarterback. It doesn’t need to be the first guy in the draft.”
Other than to stay away from quarterbacks, Polian had no advice for the Chiefs with the first pick.

“Ask Andy,” he said. “They know their personnel far better than I do and they know what they need.”

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/21...-colts-gm.html

siberian khatru · 02-22-2013, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

I bet after reviewing Cassel tape that Andy would suit himself up at QB rather than make Matty the starter again.

**the Talking Can** · 02-22-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

And to think I thought Petro had an epiphany.

Now he's talking about it being "likely" that MATT CASSEL is the starter next year.

And he'd be FINE with it.

petro tries so hard to be the devil's advocate that he just ends up stupid...

he's the pioli of the radio

htismaqe · 02-22-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Ideally, the Chiefs fall in love with a QB and take him #1 overall. If they don't, the second best option IMO is to take him at #34.

What would really be disheartening to me, in this particular draft, is for the Chiefs to pass on a QB #1 overall, then trade up into the first round to draft a QB. At that point, you're wasting precious resources that can be used for other areas of need (S, ILB, CB, WR, etc.).

If a guy is good enough at #20, take him at #1. Don't waste a #2 and #4 to get him at 20. That's just plain dumb.

frankotank · 02-22-2013, 12:58 PM

I couldn't really find the right thread to put this in....but it made me chuckle...for more than a few reasons..... thought I'd share....

'MERKA!

Scott ***** and Mike Tannenbaum are solid people and football men and I know they'll both be back working in the league soon enough. But I do find it curious that both recently fired general managers, who had their high-profile personnel swings and misses in recent years, are immediately put on television and asked to assess and predict the personnel moves that each and every NFL team needs to make this offseason.

And nobody even bats an eye, because that's how the system works. Lose your football job because of shoddy personnel decision making, and immediately become a football expert who picks apart the personnel decision making of employed general managers. Is this a great country, or what?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...3_a6&eref=sihp

Deberg_1990 · 02-22-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank

Scott ***** and Mike Tannenbaum are solid people and football men and I know they'll both be back working in the league soon enough. But I do find it curious that both recently fired general managers, who had their high-profile personnel swings and misses in recent years, are immediately put on television and asked to assess and predict the personnel moves that each and every NFL team needs to make this offseason.

And nobody even bats an eye, because that's how the system works. Lose your football job because of shoddy personnel decision making, and immediately become a football expert who picks apart the personnel decision making of employed general managers. Is this a great country, or what?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...3_a6&eref=sihp

I brought this exact same point up a few days ago. Its ridiculous for me to even take Piioli seriously.

Hammock Parties · 02-22-2013, 01:02 PM

Dane's on board now.

DRAFTURBATORS ASSEMBLE.

O.city · 02-22-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Ideally, the Chiefs fall in love with a QB and take him #1 overall. If they don't, the second best option IMO is to take him at #34.

What would really be disheartening to me, in this particular draft, is for the Chiefs to pass on a QB #1 overall, then trade up into the first round to draft a QB. At that point, you're wasting precious resources that can be used for other areas of need (S, ILB, CB, WR, etc.).

If a guy is good enough at #20, take him at #1. Don't waste a #2 and #4 to get him at 20. That's just plain dumb.

See, this is where I'm at. I totally agree with this.

Especially when our needs (CB, WR, ILB, S) are pretty stacked in this draft.

King_Chief_Fan · 02-22-2013, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

He very well could bust. If it happens, you get back on the horse and draft another 1st round QB in a few years. You do it again and again until you get it right.

yeah....says Cleveland

BigChiefFan · 02-22-2013, 01:15 PM

Pioli shows why he was shit canned. **** that douche.

Mr. Laz · 02-22-2013, 01:16 PM

The Chiefs ex-GM just flat out said that Geno Smith isn't worth the 1st pick and he would have to wait and see who else is available other than Smith during selection between 11-20.

O.city · 02-22-2013, 01:17 PM

The way Pioli is talking, I'm not sure his plan wasn't to role with Cassel again.

htismaqe · 02-22-2013, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

The way ***** is talking, I'm not sure his plan wasn't to role with Cassel again.

Of course it was.

Why do you think he repeatedly told Reid to not get locked in on the QB. He did everything except mention Cassel by name...

O.city · 02-22-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Of course it was.

Why do you think he repeatedly told Reid to not get locked in on the QB. He did everything except mention Cassel by name...

I can't believe the NFLN has this guy on. It's actually pretty embarrassing.

Pretty much a "don't get locked in, you already have one" kinda thing.

PaulAllen · 02-22-2013, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

The Chiefs ex-GM just flat out said that Geno Smith isn't worth the 1st pick and he would have to wait and see who else is available other than Smith during selection between 11-20.

Translation: He wouldnt pick him at all.

O.city · 02-22-2013, 01:26 PM

Pioli doesnt' think Geno is worth the first overall pick, but he thinks Matt Cassel is a starting Qb in the NFL.

Something is off a little there.

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