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Old 12-08-2008, 02:05 PM  
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OOOPs: Liberals losing faith in HIM

Not even six weeks after the election and already Liberals are feeling screwed. The guy hasn't taken office yet and already his base is crumbling???





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Liberals are growing increasingly nervous – and some just flat-out angry – that President-elect Barack Obama seems to be stiffing them on Cabinet jobs and policy choices.

Obama has reversed pledges to immediately repeal tax cuts for the wealthy and take on Big Oil. He’s hedged his call for a quick drawdown in Iraq. And he’s stocking his White House with anything but stalwarts of the left.

Now some are shedding a reluctance to puncture the liberal euphoria at being rid of President George W. Bush to say, in effect, that the new boss looks like the old boss.

“He has confirmed what our suspicions were by surrounding himself with a centrist to right cabinet. But we do hope that before it's all over we can get at least one authentic progressive appointment,” said Tim Carpenter, national director of the Progressive Democrats of America.

OpenLeft blogger Chris Bowers went so far as to issue this plaintive plea: “Isn't there ever a point when we can get an actual Democratic administration?”

Even supporters make clear they’re on the lookout for backsliding. “There’s a concern that he keep his basic promises and people are going to watch him,” said Roger Hickey, a co-founder of Campaign for America’s Future.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:14 PM   #2
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but on the other hand, he's gaining support from some that didn't vote for him, like me. He seems to be really trying to surround himself with good people politicians, not party politicians.

Just my humble one.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:17 PM   #3
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but on the other hand, he's gaining support from some that didn't vote for him, like me. He seems to be really trying to surround himself with good people politicians, not party politicians.

Just my humble one.
You are kidding, right? He's surrounded himself with old Democratic establishment types who represent anything but change. Which itself wouldn't be a bad thing but Libs and Progressives who drank the Koolade expected something else.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:34 PM   #4
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As a suporter of Obama since before the Iowa caucus I'm not upset at all.

Change for me was suppose to be a different approach to resolving our issues other than the way Bush went about it.

It was about ending the political partianship that had gridlocked Washington.

About change in our foreign policy.

An end to the lobbyist, big oil, pharmacy control of the political process in Washington.

Some attention paid to the middle class and not on Wall Street and big business.

I was not expecting a liberal agenda. The american people reject that as much as they reject the religious based nonsense of Rush Limbaugh and Sara Palin.

The best American presidents always govern from the middle because thats where the majority of Americans beliefs are firmly rooted.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:40 PM   #5
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As a suporter of Obama since before the Iowa caucus I'm not upset at all.

Change for me was suppose to be a different approach to resolving our issues other than the way Bush went about it.

It was about ending the political partianship that had gridlocked Washington.

About change in our foreign policy.

An end to the lobbyist, big oil, pharmacy control of the political process in Washington.

Some attention paid to the middle class and not on Wall Street and big business.

I was not expecting a liberal agenda. The american people reject that as much as they reject the religious based nonsense of Rush Limbaugh and Sara Palin.

The best American presidents always govern from the middle because thats where the majority of Americans beliefs are firmly rooted.
Damn right on.

I like all of his picks so far. The nutjobs were never going to happy anyway. Hell they were bitching during the primary and the election.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:57 PM   #6
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...Libs and Progressives who drank the Koolade expected something else.
It's funny how you take it upon youself to speak for everyone else. You are so vested in hating Obama that you can't possibly meaningfully represent anyone but patteeu and the hardline Repubilcans.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:57 PM   #7
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His picks seem fine to me. I probably wouldn't have chosen Hillary, but whatever.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:58 PM   #8
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As a suporter of Obama since before the Iowa caucus I'm not upset at all.

Change for me was suppose to be a different approach to resolving our issues other than the way Bush went about it.

It was about ending the political partianship that had gridlocked Washington.

About change in our foreign policy.

An end to the lobbyist, big oil, pharmacy control of the political process in Washington.

Some attention paid to the middle class and not on Wall Street and big business.

I was not expecting a liberal agenda. The american people reject that as much as they reject the religious based nonsense of Rush Limbaugh and Sara Palin.

The best American presidents always govern from the middle because thats where the majority of Americans beliefs are firmly rooted.
Exactly.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:59 PM   #9
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:01 PM   #10
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It's funny how you take it upon youself to speak for everyone else. You are so vested in hating Obama that you can't possibly meaningfully represent anyone but patteeu and the hardline Repubilcans.
I'm speaking for myself and possibly the skepticism and cynicism of other libs and progressives who chose to pass on the Koolade. I know we were in a minority but we are out here and just waiting to see what the fall out is so we can pick up the pieces.
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I, for one, am extremely disappointed. I thought we were electing someone who would lead us in a marxist revolution. I mean there was a 50% increase in gun sales after the election, wasn't there? I thought my fellow comrades were set to go, and now you're telling me that the "change" that Obama spoke about isn't some violent overthrow of the capitalist pigs who have looted and plundered our nation? Sweet lord, what good are ballots if you can't use the bullets? I guess it is just more of the same old, same old.....
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:29 PM   #12
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Yes, yes, we know. All you guys and gals over there are going to pick up the pieces and put humpty dumpty back together. Still can't win a primary though. Shucks.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:40 PM   #13
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I'm speaking for ... libs and progressives who chose to pass on the Koolade.
That's interesting, you opening post seemed to be speaking for "Liberals are feeling screwed" and "his base". But what you really meant was the liberals like you who never had "faith in HIM" to begin with, were never "his base" and couldn't possibly justify "feeling screwed" because they didn't even support him to begin with?

Got it.

Thanks for admitting you're wrong (again). Takes character.
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Old 12-08-2008, 03:41 PM   #14
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That's interesting, you opening post seemed to be speaking for "Liberals are feeling screwed" and "his base". But what you really meant was the liberals like you who never had "faith in HIM" to begin with, were never "his base" and couldn't possibly justify "feeling screwed" because they didn't even support him to begin with?

Got it.

Thanks for admitting you're wrong (again). Takes character.
Me thinks jAZ didn't read the article excerpt I posted.

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Even supporters make clear they’re on the lookout for backsliding. “There’s a concern that he keep his basic promises and people are going to watch him,” said Roger Hickey, a co-founder of Campaign for America’s Future.
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You are kidding, right? He's surrounded himself with old Democratic establishment types who represent anything but change. Which itself wouldn't be a bad thing but Libs and Progressives who drank the Koolade expected something else.
I am a liberal who believes that the inherent nature of pragmatism will always take us down the path of progress. I think it is disingenuous to try to continue painting everyone with the broad brush of discontent that colors your world.
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