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Old 02-07-2018, 08:23 PM  
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Trades
QB Alex Smith to Washington for 2018 3rd round selection (78) and CB Kendall Fuller per sources.

Retirements (Else Release)
ILB Derrick Johnson
OLB Tamba Hali

If either of these guys don't hang it up, it's time for the Chiefs to finally grow a set of balls and cut them loose. Business is business. There is zero reason to keep players that don't produce well beyond their primes, and they've done that a couple years too many already.

Cuts
CB Darrelle Revis - I don't see the Chiefs picking up an 8.8 million roster bonus, especially after acquiring Kendall Fuller.
OLB Frank Zombo - Zombo has proved time and again that he's nothing but a special teams guy given that he can't get pressure on the QB.
FS Ron Parker (Designate as Post-June 1 cut) - Parker just doesn't make the plays to justify his contract. He fell to only 4 passes defensed on the season despite the Chiefs having problems at CB#2 all year.
TE Demetrius Harris - It's time for the basketball conversion experiment to end; Harris can't catch a cold.

Let Walk
DL Bennie Logan, P Dustin Colquitt, QB Tyler Bray, CB Phillip Gaines, OL Jordan Devey, DB Steven Terrell, WR De'Anthony Thomas, OL Zach Fulton, CB Kenneth Acker, ILB Ramik Wilson, CB T. Mitchell, FB Anthony Sherman

Estimated Cap Space before signings: $30 m

Re-Sign
DL Rakeem Nunez-Roches - RFA Original Round Tender $1.91 m
ILB Terrance Smith - ERFA Tender $630 k
CB Keith Baxter - ERFA Tender $560 k
ILB Kevin Pierre-Louis - 3 y $3.60 m $1.00 m guaranteed, 2018 ~ $1.10 m
DL Jarvis Jenkins - 2 y $2.50 m $500 k guaranteed, 2018 ~ $1.30 m
WR Albert Wilson - 4 y $14.1 m $5 m guaranteed, 2018 ~ $2.30 m

Total Cost: ~$7.8 m

Free Agents:
LG Andrew Norwell (CAR) - 5 y $60.00 m $30 m guaranteed, 2018 ~$8.50 m
One of the premier guards in the NFL, Norwell should be extremely high on the wish list for the Chiefs. With a young QB, it's best to give him as much protection as possible.
DT Justin Ellis (OAK) - 4 y $16 m $4.5 m guaranteed, 2018 ~$3.50 m
Ellis has been a spot starter for Oakland up until 2017 when he assumed full-time duties where he excelled as a run plugger. The Chiefs don't need to spend $8 m per on a base NT.
QB Austin Davis (SEA) - 2 y $2.2 m, 2018 ~ $1.00 m
Davis proved to be a capable backup but nothing more. He should be had cheap.
WR Deonte Thompson (BUF) - 2 y $2.0 m, ~ 2018 ~ $1.0 m
Thompson is a vertical threat on the field while also possessing excellent quickness. He is also a very good kick returner.
DL Quinton Dial (GB) - 1 y $790 k
Dial was an A quality NT in San Francisco when he started there for 1 season, but he has otherwise been misused. He received only spot duty on his 1-year deal in GB so he should be a cheap pick-up as a rotational player for an odd front.
TE Crockett Gillmore (BAL) - 1 y $790 k + incentives
Gilmore hasn't been able to stay healthy the past two seasons else he probably would have seen an increased role in Baltimore. When he's on the field, he's been solid. He could come fairly cheap on a 1-year prove-it deal.
OLB Jeremiah Attaochu (LAC) - 1 y $790 k + incentives
Attaochu looked like the real deal in 2015 but since then, much like Gillmore above, has been too often injured. He could also be cheap on a 1-year prove-it deal with incentives.

Total Cost: ~$ 16.4 m

Estimated Cap Space after signings: ~$5.8 M


Draft (7th round #s may be incorrect):
2 (54) - ILB Josey Jewell - Iowa (6'1" 236)
3 (78 f/WAS) - OLB Jeff Holland - Auburn (6'1" 249)
3 (86) - FS Armani Watts - Texas A&M (5'11" 191)
4 (124) - DE Andrew Brown - Virginia (6'4" 294)
5 (175* c/ Foles) - CB Taron Johnson - Weber State (5'11" 190)
6 (199) - QB Kurt Benkert - Virginia (6'3" 214)
7 (233 f/ ARZ) - TE Ben Johnson - Kansas (6'5" 245)
7 (235 f/ SEA) - FB Garrett Dickerson - Northwestern (6'2" 248)
7 (243 f/ TEN) - P Corey Bojorquez - New Mexico (6'0" 200)
*Estimate

QB: P. Mahomes, A. Davis, K. Benkert
RB: K. Hunt, S. Ware, C. West
FB: G. Dickerson
TE: T. Kelce, C. Gillmore, B. Johnson
WR: T. Hill, C. Conley, D. Robinson, A. Wilson, J. Chesson, D. Thompson
OL: E. Fisher, A. Norwell , M. Morse, L. Duvernay-Tardif, M. Schwartz, B. Witzman, C. Erving, P. Ehinger
DE: C. Jones, A. Bailey, J. Jenkins, R. Nunez-Roches, A. Brown
NT: J. Ellis, Q. Dial
OLB: J. Houston, D. Ford, J. Holland, T. Kpassagnon, J. Attaochu, D. Nicolas
ILB: J. Jewell, R. Ragland, K. Pierre-Louis, U. Eligwe, T. Smith
CB: M. Peters, K. Fuller, S. Nelson, T. Johnson, K. Baxter, A. Lampkin
DB: E. Berry, A. Watts, D. Sorensen, E. Murray, L. McQuay
ST: H. Butker, J. Winchester, C. Bojorquez
+A truckload of UDFAs and whatnot
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:23 PM   #16
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Iím not necessarily opposed to taking a safer high but Iíd like to see what happens with berry coming back first.

Him being healthy allows the others to slide into better roles for themselves and now a year of experience for Murray would allow him to potentially overtake Sorensen.

They arenít great safeties but when asked to do what Berry does they looked bad. Having him back would be a big factor.

Iím looking at the front 7 early and often in this draft.
How much can you count on Berry though? At some point he's going to get the "injury prone" label. He was having issues with his Achilles before Week 1 and then he tore the completely opposite one. Dude is a great athlete and takes care of his body but at some point all of that shit starts to add up.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:25 PM   #17
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How much can you count on Berry though? At some point he's going to get the "injury prone" label. He was having issues with his Achilles before Week 1 and then he tore the completely opposite one. Dude is a great athlete and takes care of his body but at some point all of that shit starts to add up.
True but the only real injury from playing football was the Achilles

The knee maybe but thatís just a freak play.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:25 PM   #18
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Iím not necessarily opposed to taking a safer high but Iíd like to see what happens with berry coming back first.

Him being healthy allows the others to slide into better roles for themselves and now a year of experience for Murray would allow him to potentially overtake Sorensen.

They arenít great safeties but when asked to do what Berry does they looked bad. Having him back would be a big factor.

Iím looking at the front 7 early and often in this draft.
I've seen absolutely nothing from Eric Murray that says "NFL player".

I'd be down with a safety in the 2nd round, along with a free agent safety if it meant the end of Daniel Sorenson and Eric Murray.

They aren't even JAG's, IMO, and Murray singlehandedly lost the Raiders game because he couldn't cover 150 year old tight end Jared Cook.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:28 PM   #19
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They aren’t moving on from sorenson I doubt after the contract. As much as andy seems to like him it would surprise me.

Murray Definitely had some rough moments but I thought he improved as the season went on basically being a rookie and playing a lot of minutes
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:30 PM   #20
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I would really like another Olb that’s worth a shit but the draft looks pretty slim there
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:14 PM   #21
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They arenít moving on from sorenson I doubt after the contract. As much as andy seems to like him it would surprise me.
Post June 1 for Sorenson gives $3.8 million cap relief with only $1 million in Dead Space
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Old 02-08-2018, 02:17 PM   #22
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I donít think that will matter to them, as andy is or seems to be super high on him.

They can free up a lot of money this offseason but theyíre gonna have to keep some of these guys
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Old 02-08-2018, 03:16 PM   #23
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Veach needs to get rid of him. He was a nice player on a rookie contract but he does not deserve anywhere near this much.
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I don’t think that will matter to them, as andy is or seems to be super high on him.

They can free up a lot of money this offseason but they’re gonna have to keep some of these guys
Sorenson was terrible. At least with Parker we know he can be a cover player who could play some corner if needed.

Sorenson was legitimately terrible in all facets of the game. I like what I saw from Leon McQuay much more than anything I saw from Sorenson. He’s got potential as a backup.

I honestly wouldn’t mind getting rid of Murray and Sorenson.
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I feel like Reid has always prized edge rushers and corners. I doubt we'd go ILB in the second. I could see an edge rusher or even another corner.
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Veach made it pretty clear with his trades over the past 6 months that he's going to be aggressive when it comes to finding ways to flll holes.

Knowing that, I think Sorensen is in trouble. $3.8M could go towards a lot better options.
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I donít think Jewell has the athleticism to play at the next level enough to spend that high of a pick on him

Maybe a 3 or 4 but 2 is too steep for me

I like the 2nd round for a dlineman that falls

If he had elite long speed, he'd be a top-10 pick. That said, he still has very good sideline-to-sideline burst and he has insane short-area quickness. I heard this same shit about guys like James Laurinaitis and Paul Posluszny, but all they did was come into the NFL and be studs putting up 110+ tackles a year. Sorry bud, sticking to my guns on this kid.


Another guy from Iowa to watch is Nathan Bazata. He's a bit undersized like Allen Bailey was coming out, but he's another very good player that you could probably get alot cheaper than his play warrants.
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If he had elite long speed, he'd be a top-10 pick. That said, he still has very good sideline-to-sideline burst and he has insane short-area quickness. I heard this same shit about guys like James Laurinaitis and Paul Posluszny, but all they did was come into the NFL and be studs putting up 110+ tackles a year. Sorry bud, sticking to my guns on this kid.


Another guy from Iowa to watch is Nathan Bazata. He's a bit undersized like Allen Bailey was coming out, but he's another very good player that you could probably get alot cheaper than his play warrants.
Maybe so

He just seems a little to limited for me. Iíd like to see what he can run and measure bunt Iím skeptical
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I donít think Jewell has the athleticism to play at the next level enough to spend that high of a pick on him

Maybe a 3 or 4 but 2 is too steep for me

I like the 2nd round for a dlineman that falls
A safety like White or Marcus Allen would have more value than Jewell in the 2nd round, IMO.

I'd be fine with Jewell in the 4th but 2nd is too high, IMO. The Chiefs need either a safety or D lineman in that spot and ready to start immediately.
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Knowing that, I think Sorensen is in trouble. $3.8M could go towards a lot better options.
I truly believe that Veach will remake the defense this offseason and it's difficult to envision a future for Hali, DJ and Sorenson.

I think Parker and Bailey, especially if they agree to restructure, are safe at this point but the Chiefs would save nearly $12 million by cutting them both.

The problem then becomes, who replaces them?
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