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Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

**Dartgod** · 02-17-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

That doesn't mean, of course, that I appreciate the misleading advertising they use. Last week's episode implied some big blowout between Jack and Sawyer over Kate. Here's a big

to the clown that cut that together.

They also implied that Sawyer and Kate had "relations"

together.

ZootedGranny · 02-17-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kclee

And what's with Locke? When he, Sawyer, and Kate are in the jungle, Locke tells that story about his mom thinking the dog was his dead sister telling her it wasn't her fault. Then he just gives a small smile to Sawyer. How does Locke know the things he knows about everyone else?

My theory is that Locke doesn't want to leave the island, because he is somehow connected to it. He frequently comes up with annecdotes that perfectly fit situations he doesn't fully understand.

Chiefnj · 02-17-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kclee

And what's with Locke? When he, Sawyer, and Kate are in the jungle, Locke tells that story about his mom thinking the dog was his dead sister telling her it wasn't her fault. Then he just gives a small smile to Sawyer. How does Locke know the things he knows about everyone else?

Locke is slowly helping each member of the island unlock their own baggage and vices. Boone's caring for his sister, Michael finally becoming a father figure and hero for his son, Charlie kicking drugs, Sawyer's guilt over killing an innocent man.

Locke's character seems to be based on the British philosopher Locke who felt that everyone is born with a blank slate (tabula rosa - the name of the episode with Lock's flashback) and all of our ideas come about from experiences with the physical world and our knowledge comes from experience. To help get past their problems each person on the island must have some form of an experience which the island is helping create - Boone's dream about his sister, Sawyer's confrontation with the boar, Michael saving walt from the polar bear.

That's my take anyway.

**Bearcat** · 02-18-2005, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

If they defeat Ethan's evil band (if there is one), open the hatch and reveal the secrets contained underneath, kill all the monsters, and welcome the French bitch into the clan, then what? Then nothing. The show will continue like this as long as it runs - feeding us enough scraps to picque our interest while holding off on the big finale until the last episode.

But there's only so much they can give away without running out of ideas. ...how much different stuff can happen to them on a small island before the show gets so ridiculous that the audience cries bullshit and changes the channel?

Do you see how much stuff that is vs. how productive they are now? At the pace they're going right now, they could spend another 3 months (TV time) doing all that. It would be a great change of pace for them to spend two or three episodes on the hatch, finding a way in, exploring, confronting others, etc. Spend another episode or two on the French woman, and another few on the monsters/mapping the island. Of course, while other stuff is happening, too.... spending more time on flashbacks, on Locke, the raft thing, and oh yeah, someone's still pregnant. That's easily two or three months, not including the "other ideas" part.

I still enjoy parts of the show, and I'm glad they didn't just cram it all into a 6 hour miniseries.... but at the same time, they shouldn't be writing with the idea of keeping it going for as long as possible. After all, they are losing money.

Kclee · 02-18-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

That's my take anyway.

Very sound take.

Kclee · 02-18-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ZootedGranny

My theory is that Locke doesn't want to leave the island, because he is somehow connected to it. He frequently comes up with annecdotes that perfectly fit situations he doesn't fully understand.

And the final episode will probably show how Locke came about this knowledge and what he did with it and we will all be like "AHHH, it all makes sense now." Because Titus posted some of the MAJOR things that need to be explained, but there seems to be hundreds of little things that happen that you forget about or just push to the side for now that are head scratchers. Like Locke walking for starters. And on another note, I find it hard to believe that the french woman isn't at least spying on all those people. She's been alone for how long and isn't even peeking from behind a bush or anything to watch a little human interaction. Curiosity has to win out there. (if she really is real, and not made up in Sayid's head like the whole Boon/sister thing)

**Bearcat** · 02-18-2005, 11:56 AM

I'm glad they're coming back to the raft idea. I know it won't end up like Castaway, but at least it's a productive idea... it's one of those things that you don't think could just go away, but there's plenty of things that fall into that category.

Much better than inserting in a random future episode:

"Hey, where did that black guy go?"

"Oh, you didn't hear... him and his son built a raft and left."

**Bearcat** · 02-18-2005, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Locke is slowly helping each member of the island unlock their own baggage and vices. Boone's caring for his sister, Michael finally becoming a father figure and hero for his son, Charlie kicking drugs, Sawyer's guilt over killing an innocent man.

Locke's character seems to be based on the British philosopher Locke who felt that everyone is born with a blank slate (tabula rosa - the name of the episode with Lock's flashback) and all of our ideas come about from experiences with the physical world and our knowledge comes from experience. To help get past their problems each person on the island must have some form of an experience which the island is helping create - Boone's dream about his sister, Sawyer's confrontation with the boar, Michael saving walt from the polar bear.

That's my take anyway.

I know everyone seems to have a reason to want to stay on the island, and Locke seems to be the one with the most purpose in regards to that. Maybe they won't have any major breakthroughs until Locke "lets them" -- in other words, not until Locke is done healing everyone.

Frazod · 02-23-2005, 06:57 PM

Bump. On in five.

Frazod · 02-23-2005, 07:04 PM

That Korean guy is a dick.

Frazod · 02-23-2005, 07:25 PM

So where are all the Lost groupies tonight? Pretty good episode so far. Sawyer just kicked Kim upside the head going into commercial.

Frazod · 02-23-2005, 08:01 PM

Well, you AWOL bastards missed an excellent episode.

And I'm not gonna tell you about it.

OmahaChief · 02-23-2005, 08:03 PM

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Well, you AWOL bastards missed an excellent episode.

And I'm not gonna tell you about it.

One helluva episode. Still by far my favorite non reality show on regular TV.

Next week looks to be a badass show too.

Frazod · 02-23-2005, 08:05 PM

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One helluva episode. Still by far my favorite non reality show on regular TV.

Next week looks to be a badass show too.

Looks like they'll be having a run-in with the psycho frog bitch.

chiefs4me · 02-23-2005, 08:52 PM

Was it all a suprise to you when we found out that the son burned his daddy's raft? Tonight was pretty good and it's gonna get better next week. Someone else on the island has guns......

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02-18-2005, 11:56 AM	#802
Bearcat Would an idiot do that? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $2904931	I'm glad they're coming back to the raft idea. I know it won't end up like Castaway, but at least it's a productive idea... it's one of those things that you don't think could just go away, but there's plenty of things that fall into that category. Much better than inserting in a random future episode: "Hey, where did that black guy go?" "Oh, you didn't hear... him and his son built a raft and left." __________________
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02-23-2005, 06:57 PM	#804
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $3215085	Bump. On in five.
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02-23-2005, 07:04 PM	#805
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $3215085	That Korean guy is a dick.
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02-23-2005, 07:25 PM	#806
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $3215085	So where are all the Lost groupies tonight? Pretty good episode so far. Sawyer just kicked Kim upside the head going into commercial.
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02-23-2005, 08:01 PM	#807
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $3215085	Well, you AWOL bastards missed an excellent episode. And I'm not gonna tell you about it.
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02-23-2005, 08:52 PM	#810
chiefs4me Whatever.. Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	Was it all a suprise to you when we found out that the son burned his daddy's raft? Tonight was pretty good and it's gonna get better next week. Someone else on the island has guns......
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