Chiefs Who's stock rose/fell this game? - Page 2

shammus · 08-16-2008, 09:38 PM

I threw some opinions up after the Bears game so I thought I'd do the same for this game. Here's what I saw in this week's game. I'm sure there's some stuff I'm forgetting but here's what I could come up with off the top of my head for the time being.

Good -

Turk McBride. Solid pressure on the QB and a couple sacks. This is a great sign since DE is one of those positions we're woefully short on. It would be nice if two of our high round draft picks (Hali and McBride) can contribute this year from the end positions while someone like a Brian Johnston works his way into the rotation.

Mike Cox - finally an actual fullback blocking for our halfbacks instead of a bigfoot/boomer type of convert. Cox looked solid in the running game and had a couple nice catches as well. I'm thinking I wouldn't mind him as our starter one bit.

Running game - possibly the deepest position on the Chiefs. Solid performance by really all that played and this will be an interesting battle in camp. Over 100 yards in the first half alone. Kolby Smith had quite a few long runs and Dantrell Savage stood out once again for the second week in a row. I would think Savage would be less expendable than Jackie Battle at this point but I can see the Chiefs keeping 5 guys IF Savage ends up being their return man, which he did a nice job of tonight.

Quarterback play - Croyle looked pretty decent today. I liked how he audibled at the line of scrimmage and he led us on two scoring drives in the early part of the game. I saw him miss on a few passes and overthrew a couple wide open receivers though. Thigpen was a little inconsistant but led us on a decent scoring drive at the end of the game. He seems to lock on to a target too quickly as well.

O-line -

First string looked pretty good. Taylor looked better than he did last week in my opinion and Waters and Niswanger seemed to hold up pretty well in the run game. Wasn't a big fan of MacIntosh's effort today and Adrian Jones seemed to be running after his man several times as well. Our running game got off to a solid start though and Croyle wasn't running for his life back there so that's what really matters I suppose.

Receiving -

I liked what I saw from Maurice Price, but this was the only receiver that stood out in my opinion. Webb caught a couple though and had a couple decent gains. Darling, for the second week in a row was nowhere to be found. I saw Sippio drop a couple passes and had a 3rd bounce off his hands and returned for a touchdown.

Playcalling -

One thing that I've really liked the first two games is how runs are mixed with passes pretty well. The playbook has been truncated but the offense actually looks much more diverse than it did last year. I even noticed a trick play or two thrown in there that actually worked! Gailey's offense should be a big improvement over our run-run-pass offense from last year. Not saying that will result in more wins, but it's not frustrating to watch as last year.

Bad -

BK Sams -

This guy just looks slow to me and I really haven't been impressed by him this year. He's been outperformed by both Savage and Charles I think as well. I don't see him making the team and I don't think things bode well for Kevin Robinson either.

Backup corners -

Allowing too many big plays. Flowers played pretty well in the game but everyone else from Carr on down was somewhat disappointing. The long pass that gave Arizona their third touchdown was pretty bad. Someone must have blown that coverage altogether because that looked like the easiest touchdown pass you'll ever see a team make against us.

Ugly -

The 2nd string offensive-line group. There was a big shift in the Chiefs ability to control the line of scrimmage as soon as this group came in. Barry Richardson completely whiffed on a couple plays and the others weren't much better. It seemed that the entire line of scrimmage was shoved into the backfield on each play for the first two drives after the starters left.

**KcMizzou** · 08-16-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shammus

I did see Dorsey contribute on a couple back-to-back plays. On the first, he clogged the middle and stuffed the RB at the line of scrimmage. The next play he was double teamed which allowed a couple linebackers to shoot through the gaps. I believe we got a sack out of that play if I remember correctly....

yep.

Mecca · 08-16-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

The coaches need to let Croyle audible out of EVERY play if need be, not just 16 or so like Pearson said in the telecast. EVERY play. He's on a Jake Plummer leash or something.

I think that's a pretty good comparison for Croyle...

**pr_capone** · 08-16-2008, 10:45 PM

For me....

Risers

Savage stock rose dramatically. Someone who actually wants to return the ball in the kicking game and would make a great e-back if/when we run Larry into the ground and he gets hurt again.

Price stock rose to the point I would be fine with it if he were named #2 or #3. Darling should not even be on the team. (

Wendler)

Cox impressed me greatly today. Seems like he is a perfect fir with Chan and I am plenty fine with that. Showed soft hands and the ability to come down with the ball and not panic... even after muffing an easy catch. Looks like a hard nose blocker who did extremely well opening holes for LJ & Kolby.

Kolby Smith should be the #2 RB going into the season. If LJ were to go down again this year, I would not be panic stricken as I was last year before Smith simply tore up the Raiders.

Patterson showed great presence of mind to strip that ball. I still think he can turn out to be a real player for us... even if only as a backup.

Turk McBride simply wowed me today. Showed he deserved the starting spot at LDE. Glad he grew a beard so that he does not look like a gigantic 16 year old anymore.

Fallers

Bowe - BLOCK GOD DAMMIT. If there was any one thing that I see sorely missing from Bowe's game is that he will not block down field. If he has, then I have missed it but hopping around like a god damned bunny rabbit when LJ could have busted through for a bigger run had he just had a block pissed me off.

Still a f00king stud WR tho...

Anthony Alabi / Tre Stallings- Jordan Black is available... isnt he? We should look into it.

Connor Barth - I believe he just lost his job today. Novak is still a young enough guy and was getting better distance on his KO and DID NOT MISS FG. Yeah, 46 yards isnt exactly a gimmie but the kid needed to be perfect for me to want another rookie K.

Darling - Was he even at the stadium tonight? The dude is a ghost... the last thing we need at the #2 spot is someone who does nothing to take the pressure off of Bowe. Gimmie Price or Franklin over this asshole. Hell... Sippio over Darling.

BJ Sams - What another worthless pile of shit we have back there returning kicks. Cut his ass and make room for Savage in ST as a return man.

Battle - Practice squad at BEST, though if he were cut I do not think we would see him resurface anywhere but the CFL or AFL.

KCrockaholic · 08-16-2008, 10:47 PM

its to bad, this was basically Sippio's nail in the coffin. hey, he did it to himself.

on the other hand, i love Dantrell Savage. i thought he was fun to watch in college, and watching him return that nice 45 yarder, and complete that swift catch and spin play was awesome...i gotta say, i love our HB's this year.

Chief Chief · 08-16-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Sippio will now be cut.

But he's good enough to be the #1 WR of our Brigade!!

FAX · 08-16-2008, 11:01 PM

What did SIPPIO!!! do that was so awful?

FAX THE MISSED THE ENTIRE GAME PRETTY MUCH

**pr_capone** · 08-16-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

What did SIPPIO!!! do that was so awful?

FAX THE MISSED THE ENTIRE GAME PRETTY MUCH

Tipped a pass on 3rd down that led to a pick 6 and killed any hope for a W.

**Smed1065** · 08-16-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

What did SIPPIO!!! do that was so awful?

FAX THE MISSED THE ENTIRE GAME PRETTY MUCH

Dropped 2 passes and had one that "great" hands would have caught. IIRC

**KcMizzou** · 08-16-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

What did SIPPIO!!! do that was so awful?

FAX THE MISSED THE ENTIRE GAME PRETTY MUCH

Dropped passes... and his hands are about all he's got going for him.

One bounced off his hands for an INT.

**DeezNutz** · 08-16-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

What did SIPPIO!!! do that was so awful?

FAX THE MISSED THE ENTIRE GAME PRETTY MUCH

Two drops. One that looked like it would have led (lead according to Planet lexicon) to a touchdown.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-16-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

What did SIPPIO!!! do that was so awful?

FAX THE MISSED THE ENTIRE GAME PRETTY MUCH

Dropped two passes, had another bounce off his hands for a pick six.

Then he eased up the last 15 meters of the 100 and cost himself a chance to break 9.60

**pr_capone** · 08-16-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Two drops. One that looked like it would have led (lead according to Planet lexicon) to a touchdown.

Yeah... I think he got the idea of what took place from the first 3 replies.

**DeezNutz** · 08-16-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

What did SIPPIO!!! do that was so awful?

FAX THE MISSED THE ENTIRE GAME PRETTY MUCH

Dropped two passes.

**DeezNutz** · 08-16-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

What did SIPPIO!!! do that was so awful?

FAX THE MISSED THE ENTIRE GAME PRETTY MUCH

He dropped two ****ing passes. Did you get that Fax. No Mr. Two ****ing passes.

BigRock · 08-16-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

Darling - Was he even at the stadium tonight? The dude is a ghost...

If memory serves, he beat a DB down the sideline on the 2nd or 3rd series, and Brodie overthrew him.

08-16-2008, 09:38 PM
shammus Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $8224957	Who's stock rose/fell this game? I threw some opinions up after the Bears game so I thought I'd do the same for this game. Here's what I saw in this week's game. I'm sure there's some stuff I'm forgetting but here's what I could come up with off the top of my head for the time being. Good - Turk McBride. Solid pressure on the QB and a couple sacks. This is a great sign since DE is one of those positions we're woefully short on. It would be nice if two of our high round draft picks (Hali and McBride) can contribute this year from the end positions while someone like a Brian Johnston works his way into the rotation. Mike Cox - finally an actual fullback blocking for our halfbacks instead of a bigfoot/boomer type of convert. Cox looked solid in the running game and had a couple nice catches as well. I'm thinking I wouldn't mind him as our starter one bit. Running game - possibly the deepest position on the Chiefs. Solid performance by really all that played and this will be an interesting battle in camp. Over 100 yards in the first half alone. Kolby Smith had quite a few long runs and Dantrell Savage stood out once again for the second week in a row. I would think Savage would be less expendable than Jackie Battle at this point but I can see the Chiefs keeping 5 guys IF Savage ends up being their return man, which he did a nice job of tonight. Quarterback play - Croyle looked pretty decent today. I liked how he audibled at the line of scrimmage and he led us on two scoring drives in the early part of the game. I saw him miss on a few passes and overthrew a couple wide open receivers though. Thigpen was a little inconsistant but led us on a decent scoring drive at the end of the game. He seems to lock on to a target too quickly as well. O-line - First string looked pretty good. Taylor looked better than he did last week in my opinion and Waters and Niswanger seemed to hold up pretty well in the run game. Wasn't a big fan of MacIntosh's effort today and Adrian Jones seemed to be running after his man several times as well. Our running game got off to a solid start though and Croyle wasn't running for his life back there so that's what really matters I suppose. Receiving - I liked what I saw from Maurice Price, but this was the only receiver that stood out in my opinion. Webb caught a couple though and had a couple decent gains. Darling, for the second week in a row was nowhere to be found. I saw Sippio drop a couple passes and had a 3rd bounce off his hands and returned for a touchdown. Playcalling - One thing that I've really liked the first two games is how runs are mixed with passes pretty well. The playbook has been truncated but the offense actually looks much more diverse than it did last year. I even noticed a trick play or two thrown in there that actually worked! Gailey's offense should be a big improvement over our run-run-pass offense from last year. Not saying that will result in more wins, but it's not frustrating to watch as last year. Bad - BK Sams - This guy just looks slow to me and I really haven't been impressed by him this year. He's been outperformed by both Savage and Charles I think as well. I don't see him making the team and I don't think things bode well for Kevin Robinson either. Backup corners - Allowing too many big plays. Flowers played pretty well in the game but everyone else from Carr on down was somewhat disappointing. The long pass that gave Arizona their third touchdown was pretty bad. Someone must have blown that coverage altogether because that looked like the easiest touchdown pass you'll ever see a team make against us. Ugly - The 2nd string offensive-line group. There was a big shift in the Chiefs ability to control the line of scrimmage as soon as this group came in. Barry Richardson completely whiffed on a couple plays and the others weren't much better. It seemed that the entire line of scrimmage was shoved into the backfield on each play for the first two drives after the starters left.
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08-16-2008, 10:45 PM	#18
pr_capone ** SOC & ** YOU Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chiefs Hell Casino cash: $10018214	For me.... Risers Savage stock rose dramatically. Someone who actually wants to return the ball in the kicking game and would make a great e-back if/when we run Larry into the ground and he gets hurt again. Price stock rose to the point I would be fine with it if he were named #2 or #3. Darling should not even be on the team. ( Wendler) Cox impressed me greatly today. Seems like he is a perfect fir with Chan and I am plenty fine with that. Showed soft hands and the ability to come down with the ball and not panic... even after muffing an easy catch. Looks like a hard nose blocker who did extremely well opening holes for LJ & Kolby. Kolby Smith should be the #2 RB going into the season. If LJ were to go down again this year, I would not be panic stricken as I was last year before Smith simply tore up the Raiders. Patterson showed great presence of mind to strip that ball. I still think he can turn out to be a real player for us... even if only as a backup. Turk McBride simply wowed me today. Showed he deserved the starting spot at LDE. Glad he grew a beard so that he does not look like a gigantic 16 year old anymore. Fallers Bowe - BLOCK GOD DAMMIT. If there was any one thing that I see sorely missing from Bowe's game is that he will not block down field. If he has, then I have missed it but hopping around like a god damned bunny rabbit when LJ could have busted through for a bigger run had he just had a block pissed me off. Still a f00king stud WR tho... Anthony Alabi / Tre Stallings- Jordan Black is available... isnt he? We should look into it. Connor Barth - I believe he just lost his job today. Novak is still a young enough guy and was getting better distance on his KO and DID NOT MISS FG. Yeah, 46 yards isnt exactly a gimmie but the kid needed to be perfect for me to want another rookie K. Darling - Was he even at the stadium tonight? The dude is a ghost... the last thing we need at the #2 spot is someone who does nothing to take the pressure off of Bowe. Gimmie Price or Franklin over this asshole. Hell... Sippio over Darling. BJ Sams - What another worthless pile of shit we have back there returning kicks. Cut his ass and make room for Savage in ST as a return man. Battle - Practice squad at BEST, though if he were cut I do not think we would see him resurface anywhere but the CFL or AFL.
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08-16-2008, 10:47 PM	#19
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $4802900	its to bad, this was basically Sippio's nail in the coffin. hey, he did it to himself. on the other hand, i love Dantrell Savage. i thought he was fun to watch in college, and watching him return that nice 45 yarder, and complete that swift catch and spin play was awesome...i gotta say, i love our HB's this year.
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08-16-2008, 11:01 PM	#21
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	What did SIPPIO!!! do that was so awful? FAX THE MISSED THE ENTIRE GAME PRETTY MUCH
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